Advantages to have a small boat

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Yet the 'Unsinkable Titanic' went down in a flat calm.. there's all kinds of false assumptions..
All I can say is 3 large commercial fishing boats (2 Spanish, 1 Portuguese) went down in my vicinity during the last few days as I slowly closed Viviero that Nov/December in 2008.
Must confess it was my longest Biscay crossing as much was spent hove to

Originally Posted by Pete7

Hmm, didn't her sister ship the QE2 need some repairs to the rails and windows after bashing her way through a storm in the N Atlantic.

Pete

So.... the two of you seem to be suggesting that a Contessa 26 is somehow more seaworthy and safer than the Queen Mary II. Really???

Where and how do you guys come up with these ideas?

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

So.... the two of you seem to be suggesting that a Contessa 26 is somehow more seaworthy and safer than the Queen Mary II. Really???

Where and how do you guys come up with these ideas?

Damn Right its Safer..!!!
No way would 'this' happen on a Contessa 26..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2dR4_ZHGiI

[barnakiel]

I promised to start a '2017 Weather to the Azores' thread and it is here:

2017 Weather to the Azores - Cruisers & Sailing Forums

I will post some hopefully useful info into it later today.

Best regards,
barnakiel

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Damn Right its Safer..!!!
No way would 'this' happen on a Contessa 26..

Then today looks like an excellent day to be on a northern transatlantic crossing aboard a Contessa 26. Go for it!

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

Then today looks like an excellent day to be on a northern transatlantic crossing aboard a Contessa 26. Go for it!

Don't be silly..!!!
I Never do Northern crossings.. to bludi cold..

[tuffr2]

In that cruise ship vid, how did they keep the camera level?

[hamburking]

Originally Posted by hoppy

Small boats are safer in storms because the owners are more likely to hide in port and wait in a taverna for it to pass.

Small boats are safe in storms because they act like a cork on the ocean. They get a lot of motion, but the internal forces on the hull, rigging, etc are minimal.

A larger boat (hull) bends and twists. The rig is exposed to heavy loads.

A small boat may be less comfortable, but is definitely safer.

[tuffr2]

Big ships break apart when the keel is hanging as it creats a high wave and losses the support of the water. I agree that a larger boat will have more stress on it from different wave action.

But I still believe bigger is better as far as safety. But maybe not as much as you would think.

[boatman61]

Its a wall mounted security camera.. notice the floor and background stay level but the passengers and furniture slides back and forth.. optical illusions..

Originally Posted by tuffr2

In that cruise ship vid, how did they keep the camera level?

[mako]

Originally Posted by hamburking

Small boats are safe in storms because they act like a cork on the ocean. They get a lot of motion, but the internal forces on the hull, rigging, etc are minimal.

Wow a lot of you guys are getting really creative. Is the the joke thread?

Ok my turn... small boats are safer because they make smaller targets to get hit by big bad freighters out on the ocean. It's a mathematical fact!

[brownoarsman]

Originally Posted by makobuilders

Ok my turn... small boats are safer because they make smaller targets to get hit by big bad freighters out on the ocean. It's a mathematical fact!

But what if the smaller target means smaller radar returns, and a big bad freighter becomes more likely to hit them because they can't see smaller boats on the instruments? It's a confusing world!

[barnakiel]

Originally Posted by hamburking

Small boats are safe in storms because they act like a cork on the ocean. They get a lot of motion, but the internal forces on the hull, rigging, etc are minimal.

A larger boat (hull) bends and twists. The rig is exposed to heavy loads.

A small boat may be less comfortable, but is definitely safer.

So, you assume both the small and the bigger boat are like those modern cars, yes? Self-driving, while their owners discuss benefits of small craft, at the bar. Yes, from their bar perspective, small boats are definitely safer.

Sorry, but bigger loads are matched by bigger scantlings.

Sorry, but bending and twisting is a design error, not a function of size.

Maybe you want to be a 'cork in the ocean'. That's your thing. Another thing you can be is a PET bottle drifting from Tenerife to Martinique. Yes, these to make this trip in one piece.

I, for one, still remember that movie where they place a small kid in the washing machine. Yes, it was a horror movie. Just like you vision of sailing a cork across an ocean.

Small boats have many positive sides to them. In view of extended offshore passages, neither comfort nor safety are one them though.

Love and flowers but no bonus,
b.

[Cadence]

Originally Posted by brownoarsman

But what if the smaller target means smaller radar returns, and a big bad freighter becomes more likely to hit them because they can't see smaller boats on the instruments? It's a confusing world!

A Clorox bottle has a little return. A good reflector is a cheap investment. I guess AIS with a transponder is better investment

[Kenomac]

'Seems to me like most of the small boats being safer zealots have reached their conclusions by anaylizing their research data whilst aboard a bar stool following a few pints.



I'll stick with the big boats.

[tuffr2]

I see small boats on that big boat...how safe are those small boats?

Note: in this example if the big boat goes down...notice you do not get on a bigger boat but a small boat in this case.