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SkiprJohn · 26-07-2009, 19:31

Aloha and Welcome aboard!
I think you should learn to sail without a furler. Then, when you can really appreciate it. Get one.
We sailed over to your marina from San Leandro a couple days before heading out the Bay and down to Moss Landing last year. The winds were really weird in that area in late afternoon. 20k from the west and a couple minutes later down to nothing.
Congratulations on the new boat. It is nice to get away from varnish.
Kind regards,
JohnL

**David M** · 26-07-2009, 19:38

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Originally Posted by SkiprJohn

Aloha and Welcome aboard!
I think you should learn to sail without a furler. Then, when you can really appreciate it. Get one.
We sailed over to your marina from San Leandro a couple days before heading out the Bay and down to Moss Landing last year. The winds were really weird in that area in late afternoon. 20k from the west and a couple minutes later down to nothing.
Congratulations on the new boat. It is nice to get away from varnish.
Kind regards,
JohnL

The Golden Gate and some of the gaps in the hills act as a venturi during our traditional summer winds. The cold ocean air acts as a high pressure area and the inland areas act as a low pressure area when the inland valley warms causing the air to rise which draws in the heavier cooler air. Generally, the greater the expected temperature difference between the ocean air and the inland air, the greater the wind velocity will be that day.

What probably happened John is you went from being in one of those gaps to not being in one..and the change can be very abrupt.

SkiprJohn · 27-07-2009, 11:32

The wind was 20 while approaching a perpendicular to the wind dock (next to the marina office) and we got blown off to leeward. You know, one of those 80 foot docks where one power boat ties up in the center so sailors can't get forward or astern of them? So, we do a u-turn and start back out the channel and pick an end tie. Full reverse to try and slow the boat but of course mast, rigging and hard dodger is quite a bit of windage on an Ingrid 38 ketch. Needless to say it was a scramble and luckily there was a really nice family on a cat who came to handle lines. I was impressed by the young son who really knew what to do with a line on a cleat.
A few minutes later, no wind. All in the same area. SF winds are really tricky. Summer afternoons near the Golden Gate looks like a gale.
We took a walk on the docks the next AM before exiting and probably saw your Cal if it was there a year ago.
Kind regards,
JohnL

**sarafina** · 27-07-2009, 12:25

Sounds as if you all were at Oyster Point. We are at the cove in a slip that is blissfully straight into the wind for the most part! Not much visitor slip space in our little marina!

It must be nice in San Leandro, much calmer and warmer. Is your marina the one over there having trouble with silt and in need of dredging on one side? I sorta remember the guy we bought the boat from saying that San Leandro has a dry dock with the best rates around, so we may be visiting sometime soon!

SkiprJohn · 27-07-2009, 16:07

Aloha Sara,
The San Leandro marina I was at didn't have a drydock that I noticed (I was only there about a week). You might call. Celestialsailor was there a long time and could turn you on to all the facilities there. He is cost concious so will tell you where to get the best deals.
Yes, that's the one that is silted in. We had 6' draft and could only move around when the tide was high. So, if you wanted to go in and out of the marina you had to time the tides perfectly. Shallow draft boats had little to no problems.
Your marina sounds great and your slip is perfect if it is head to wind.
The photos of your boat look good.
I did a bit of interisland sailing on a Cal 2-30 which is quite a bit different design than yours but it was built tough.
Have a great time with your sailing lessons.
Kind regards,
JohnL

SkiprJohn · 27-07-2009, 19:27

Aloha Sara,
Check out my thread "Columbia 28 - Oahu to Big Island" to see some real 28 foot boat fun here in the islands.
regards,
JohnL

fstbttms · 28-07-2009, 08:00

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Originally Posted by sarafina

I sorta remember the guy we bought the boat from saying that San Leandro has a dry dock with the best rates around, so we may be visiting sometime soon!

If by "dry dock" you mean a boatyard with a Travellift, it no longer exists at San Leandro and has not for many years. In addition to San Leandro's silting-in issues, there is a long, narrow channel that must be navigated to enter or exit the marina. Straying even a little means going aground.