Slapping Halyards

[charliehows]

i spent a few years without a boat, one of the things i really missed was lying in bed listening to the halyards tapping. Also tells me what the weather is doing. I'm a member of the (fellow kiwi) peter blake school when it comes to boat intruders, damn shame his elephant gun jammed.

[dirkdig]

I always tell the boats around me if somethings flapping feel free to hop on and fix it to stop it driving you mad.
I also have my contact details on display too if there is a need to get me quick.

[sailorboy1]

some of you need to read the whole thread, this boat has been slapping for years and all the polite asking has been done

and you can not just "move" your mooring, get real!

[Blue Stocking]

Originally Posted by Bash

NEWS FLASH: Man with V8 Motorcycle Fails to Find Irritating Noises Bothersome.

Gary,

You would love my '65 Shelby Cobra with the Roush 427ER. Straight pipes, no balance tube. You can almost count the cylinder detonations.



Oh yeah!!, boats--I tie my halyards off to protect my high gloss painted wooden spars.

I am more irritated by those damn banshee howling furl up mains.

[Bash]

Originally Posted by rtbates

Slapping halyards are a sign of very poor seamanship.

Yes. A sign of poor seamanship. Survey your own marina, and you'll see that the mariners with chronically noisy halyards tend to be those who are clueless about things nautical. The fellow who likes to run his halyards straight down the mast also tends to want to run them under his sail cover. That way things get twice as wet when it rains, and the mildew has a heyday.

Real sailors take care of their lines.

[Celestialsailor]

Originally Posted by GaryMayo

If I were renting a space near abandoned boats, I suspect I would feel a literary Licence to help out where I could. I would inform the marina people of the problem, and ask their permission to board those boats to do needed gestures to help their boats. I would get written permission to be on those boats, and leave the marina a receipt for materials, to be deducted from my bill. If you approached the marina in that way, I am sure they would see you were serious, needed assistance, and they would do the needed Maintance for you, and charge the appropriate owners. Problem solved, either way. All Karma intact.

I think that is a total of four assumptions. The harbor prople could care less. I pay slip fees yet they allow the homeless to use all the facilities here. A friend of mine wanted to contact a boat owner to see if they wanted to sell their IP 32 which is quickly becoming run down. The harbor said no. She asked if they could take her number and pass it on...same answer and all the time kicked back in their over stuffed chair.

[GaryMayo]

Originally Posted by Bash

Yes. A sign of poor seamanship. Survey your own marina, and you'll see that the mariners with chronically noisy halyards tend to be those who are clueless about things nautical. The fellow who likes to run his halyards straight down the mast also tends to want to run them under his sail cover. That way things get twice as wet when it rains, and the mildew has a heyday.

Real sailors take care of their lines.

Ok, I will quit doing that, thanks!

[GaryMayo]

Originally Posted by Celestialsailor

I think that is a total of four assumptions. The harbor prople could care less. I pay slip fees yet they allow the homeless to use all the facilities here. A friend of mine wanted to contact a boat owner to see if they wanted to sell their IP 32 which is quickly becoming run down. The harbor said no. She asked if they could take her number and pass it on...same answer and all the time kicked back in their over stuffed chair.

Every marina has a personality. Sounds like where you slip, they really do not care much about how things look, or circumstances dictate there is not much they can do about some things Not all marinas are that way.

Homeless is another word for lazy or sometimes crazy. 99% of the time, long term homeless is a personal choice. It is a shame their choice is in our face. I have a business where homeless people walk by going to the mission two blocks away. I see them all day long. Courts are ruling in favor of homeless people and their rights. In my city, they can sleep on any public sidewalk, and they do. Personally, I would not boat where people are coming and going where they have no business. I get my fill of that at work. My lake is a 20 mile drive to nowhere, and that is fine by me. I have seen lakes, oceans in the middle of populated areas. You get riffraff or you get gated communities that only the rich can afford.

[Cotemar]

Don Lucas,

Just get on the boat and tie the halyard off. The owners have no idea there boat is making noise because they are never on it.

Maybe they will get the hint after a short time.

"Silence is golden"

[sailorboy1]

Originally Posted by Cotemar

Don Lucas,

Just get on the boat and tie the halyard off. The owners have no idea there boat is making noise because they are never on it.

Maybe they will get the hint after a short time.

"Silence is golden"

I did go and secure their halyard.

They use the boat. We were on the boat one morning after I had put a laminated note on their lifelines asking them to please secure their halyard so it wouldn't slap against the mast at night when they showed up. We watched them go about in confusion trying to figure out how to do it, but finally went out sailing. When we got back that day they were gone and the halyard was still slapping and secured to the main under the cover, but the lazy jack lines were tied together. So they tired, but just couldn't see the need to remove the halyard from the main sail in order to secure it.

[Cotemar]

Originally Posted by Don Lucas

I did go and secure their halyard.

They use the boat. We were on the boat one morning after I had put a laminated note on their lifelines asking them to please secure their halyard so it wouldn't slap against the mast at night when they showed up. We watched them go about in confusion trying to figure out how to do it, but finally went out sailing. When we got back that day they were gone and the halyard was still slapping and secured to the main under the cover, but the lazy jack lines were tied together. So they tired, but just couldn't see the need to remove the halyard from the main sail in order to secure it.

Passions Grass Hopper. You must teach them well.
You must show them the way.

[chef2sail]

some of you need to read the whole thread, this boat has been slapping for years and all the polite asking has been done

and you can not just "move" your mooring, get real! DonLucas

I did read your entire post before I responded, obviously you cannot deal with an answer you do not like just like this boats halyard

I did go and secure their halyard.

They use the boat. We were on the boat one morning after I had put a laminated note on their lifelines asking them to please secure their halyard so it wouldn't slap against the mast at night when they showed up. We watched them go about in confusion trying to figure out how to do it, but finally went out sailing. When we got back that day they were gone and the halyard was still slapping and secured to the main under the cover, but the lazy jack lines were tied together. So they tired, but just couldn't see the need to remove the halyard from the main sail in order to secure it.-Don Lucas

So heres the scenario...you saw them...you watched them...you didnt go over and address them or confront them or show them, as obviously they tried to do it ..you wait till they do it incorrectly, and leave and then board their boat. Thats passive agressive.

To affect real change and teach them ( they obviously tried) you need to confront them. If this bothers you so much go on over and make an issue of it when they are there, not hide behind the curtains of your boat watching them. . If it bothers you get the harbormaster when they are there. If either the harbor master or the people with the boat with the halyards dont agree with it then get over it. You cannot force other people to "yield" to your wishes. Your boarding their boat to do something which they obviously amy not want to do or in this case tried to do, what right do you have to do that. Why is it you think your opinion is so more right or important than theirs that you will go on their property and take matters into your own hands.

Lets make this a common sense real land scenario. You dont like my flags flapping in the wind outside my house and you live next door. You call the police and they tell you no way they are getting involved. You tell me it bothers you and I either ignore you or tell you to grow up. So you wait till I leave, trespass on my property and tie up my flag or duct tape it. I have you arrested or I wait for you to do it and confront you physically. Do you think you are going to come out on the correct side of the law here? The reason you are so brave to do what you do is because they are not there.

Neverthless you really have another option, you may not like it and obviously refuse to consider it ( see above) but you can leave. No one is forcing you to stay there. Obviously it does not bother the other people who are around you enough as they dont seem to mind it enough to board the boat. You are truly the one with 2 problems here. One-you have a very low tolerance/ threshold for others and Two- You have no respect for someone elses property

Dave

[GaryMayo]

We all have times in our lives we do things one way, and another way may be a better solution. Thank godness, most times we do not go postal, but a solution a lot less aggressive, even though it may still not be the way Mr. Rogers would do it in his neighborhood.

Here, we have a sailing family, and this family has used solutions from Duct Tape, to Chinese bungee cords, to helping people directly.

I think we can all agree, we love boating, we love the water, and we love our fellow sailors, 99% of the time.

I learned something new to me, don't wrap the cover over the halyards. Thanks for that. I will do it better next time.

[sailorboy1]

Originally Posted by chef2sail

Neverthless you really have another option, you may not like it and obviously refuse to consider it ( see above) but you can leave. No one is forcing you to stay there. Obviously it does not bother the other people who are around you enough as they dont seem to mind it enough to board the boat. You are truly the one with 2 problems here. One-you have a very low tolerance/ threshold for others and Two- You have no respect for someone elses property

Dave

Thanks for you input that didn't agree with mine! Or any of the other responders that agreed with me.

I think SN is missing you. I see no reason to address all your "points", but thanks for your input!

[Celestialsailor]

Originally Posted by GaryMayo

Every marina has a personality. Sounds like where you slip, they really do not care much about how things look, or circumstances dictate there is not much they can do about some things Not all marinas are that way.

Homeless is another word for lazy or sometimes crazy. 99% of the time, long term homeless is a personal choice. It is a shame their choice is in our face. I have a business where homeless people walk by going to the mission two blocks away. I see them all day long. Courts are ruling in favor of homeless people and their rights. In my city, they can sleep on any public sidewalk, and they do. Personally, I would not boat where people are coming and going where they have no business. I get my fill of that at work. My lake is a 20 mile drive to nowhere, and that is fine by me. I have seen lakes, oceans in the middle of populated areas. You get riffraff or you get gated communities that only the rich can afford.

Ya...it's a real drag sometimes. I'm not here long time. I'm on the Ca. Delta. The further up you go, the worst it gets. I'm sure at the top of the Delta you could see a kid on a train trestle playing a banjo...