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[newhaul]

Originally Posted by sv_pelagia

with 0 accountability?

Clearly YOU are ignorant of the "Emergencies Act".

Read up before you make such incorrect statements:
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-...ncies-act.html

Here, to help you understand, is some info:



Democratic safeguards: parliamentary oversight, accountability, and respecting Canadians’ individual rights

The Emergencies Act has stringent, built-in protections which ensure democratic oversight and accountability with respect to the way in which the Government exercises its powers under the Act.

The Act also requires consultation with the provinces and territories before a Declaration is issued, unless the provinces and territories cannot be adequately consulted without unduly jeopardizing the effectiveness of the proposed action. Once a Declaration is issued, a report must be tabled in Parliament within seven sitting days explaining the consultations that have taken place.

Impact of the Emergencies Act on individual rights

When the Emergencies Act is invoked, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (Charter) continues to protect individual rights as the Government of Canada takes the necessary steps to safeguard the safety and well-being of Canadians. In deciding on measures to take, the Government must respect constitutionally protected rights and freedoms, including the rights of citizens to enter Canada and the right to life, liberty and security of the person, as well as Canada’s obligations under international law. The Charter allows the Government to balance the rights of the individual with the interests of society where limits on guaranteed rights and freedoms can be justified in a free and democratic society.

Specifically, section 1 of the Charter allows the Government to put limits on rights and freedoms if those limits:

- are set out in law;
- pursue an important goal which can be justified in a free and democratic society; and
- pursue that goal in a reasonable and proportionate manner.

This means that during a public order emergency, as defined by the Emergencies Act, the Government must only take actions that are a reasonable and proportionate response to the risks to safety of Canadians.
Transparency and accountability

In view of its exceptional nature, there are additional, stringent safeguards built into the Act to ensure democratic oversight and accountability during an emergency. The following procedural steps act as checks and balances under the law:

- Declaration: The Government of Canada must formally declare an emergency, effective from the day it is made.
- Government tables motion in Parliament: The Government must table a motion in both the House of Commons and the Senate within seven sitting days that asks for confirmation of the Declaration and explains the reasons for it. The Government also gives Parliament a report on the consultations held with provinces before the Declaration was made.
- Parliament votes: Both the House of Commons and the Senate must vote on the motion. If either the House of Commons or the Senate does not vote in favour of the Declaration, then it is revoked that very day.
- The Senate or House of Commons are recalled, if necessary: If either the Senate or the House of Commons is not sitting at the time the Declaration is issued, it must be recalled to sit within seven days of the date of the Declaration.
- Government issues and tables orders and regulations: Any Government actions taken to respond to the emergency must be tabled in both the House of Commons and the Senate two days after the Government issues the orders or regulations. This ensures that the Government’s actions are transparent and that the Government will be accountable before Parliament for its actions.
- A parliamentary review committee is established: A special joint committee of both the House of Commons and the Senate must be established to review the Government’s actions under the Act on an ongoing basis.
- Parliament exercises powers: At any time, the Senate or the House of Commons can review and potentially revoke the Declaration and any orders or regulations made under the Act.
- Declaration expires or is extended: The Declaration expires after 30 days unless an extension is confirmed within specific timelines by both the House of Commons and the Senate.
- An inquiry held: After the emergency has ended, the Emergencies Act requires the Government to hold an inquiry, and table a report to each House of Parliament within three hundred and sixty days after expiration or revocation of the declaration of emergency.


BUT, all this talk of the Emergencies Act, Canada and Trudeau is off topic. One wonders why these topics were brought up in this thread?

Next he will enact martial law just like his daddy did .

[GordMay]

Lunatic political rantings & ravings do nothing to advance our knowledge of science & technology, the topic of this thread.

[GordMay]

2022 Sea Level Rise Technical Report~ NOAA, National Ocean Service
Updated projections available through 2150 for all U.S. coastal waters.

Four key takeaways from the report:

* Sea level along the U.S. coastline is projected to rise, on average, 10 - 12 inches (0.25 - 0.30 meters) in the next 30 years (2020 - 2050), which will be as much as the rise measured over the last 100 years (1920 - 2020). Sea level rise will vary regionally along U.S. coasts because of changes in both land and ocean height. The greatest rise in the U.S. will be on the Gulf and East Coasts, while the West Coast and Hawaii will be hit less than average. For example, between now and 2060, expect almost 25 inches (0.63 meters) of sea level rise in Galveston, Texas, and just under 2 feet (0.6 meters) in St. Petersburg, Florida, while only 9 inches (0.23 inches) in Seattle and 14 inches (0.36 meters) in Los Angeles


* Sea level rise will create a profound shift in coastal flooding over the next 30 years by causing tide and storm surge heights to increase and reach further inland. By 2050, “moderate” (typically damaging) flooding is expected to occur, on average, more than 10 times as often as it does today, and can be intensified by local factors.

* Current and future emissions matter. About 2 feet (0.6 meters) of sea level rise along the U.S. coastline is increasingly likely between 2020 and 2100 because of emissions to date. Failing to curb future emissions could cause an additional 1.5 - 5 feet (0.5 - 1.5 meters) of rise for a total of 3.5 - 7 feet (1.1 - 2.1 meters) by the end of this century.

* Continuously tracking how and why sea level is changing is an important part of informing plans for adaptation. Our ability to monitor and understand the individual factors that contribute to sea level rise allows us to track sea level changes in a way that has never before been possible (e.g., using satellites to track global ocean levels and ice sheet thickness). Ongoing and expanded monitoring will be critical as sea levels continue to rise.

More about ➥ https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/hazard...ch-report.html

2022 Sea Level Rise Technical Report
➥ https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/hazard...-sections.html
➥ https://aambpublicoceanservice.blob....enarios-US.pdf


NOAA’s Sea Level Rise Viewer ➥ https://coast.noaa.gov/slr/

[Midnight Son]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Lunatic political rantings & ravings do nothing to advance our knowledge of science & technology, the topic of this thread.

Agreed Gord, that is why my ignore list is growing. I am getting to enjoy the postings now that I have turned off the lunatic fringe.
Thanks for the great posts.

[Oeanda]

Great idea! Thanks.

I keep tuning into this thread based on the title, and then find all this ideological raving. I keep wanting to say something but then what’s the point of getting involved? Yeah I know people are trying to make the world a better place somehow, but… really guys? Cmon. It really just doesn’t work this way. And -it sure ain’t science or technology.

Ignore button is technology.

[GordMay]

Everything we see is a mash-up of the brain’s last 15 seconds of visual information

Are we living in the past?

A new experiment [1] reveals that our vision is up to 15 seconds behind real time.
In a new paper [1], published last month, in the journal Science Advances, researchers from the University of Aberdeen, and the University of California [Berkeley], describe a previously unknown visual illusion [‘serial dependence’], that helps us smooth out what we see, over time.

"Serial dependence” causes objects, at any moment, to be misperceived, as being more similar to those in the recent past, the researchers explain. That means our brains compare the live picture from our eyes, to images from the very recent past, mistakenly finding that the two are the same. This creates a smoothing effect, by reducing the overall number of "frames" in play, as we look at, and perceive objects.

More about ➥ https://theconversation.com/everythi...rmation-175577


[1] “Illusion of visual stability through active perceptual serial dependence” ~ by Mauro Manassi and David Whitney
➥ https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abk2480

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by GordMay

2022 Sea Level Rise Technical Report~ NOAA, National Ocean Service
Updated projections available through 2150 for all U.S. coastal waters.

Four key takeaways from the report:

* Sea level along the U.S. coastline is projected to rise, on average, 10 - 12 inches (0.25 - 0.30 meters) in the next 30 years (2020 - 2050), which will be as much as the rise measured over the last 100 years (1920 - 2020). Sea level rise will vary regionally along U.S. coasts because of changes in both land and ocean height. The greatest rise in the U.S. will be on the Gulf and East Coasts, while the West Coast and Hawaii will be hit less than average. For example, between now and 2060, expect almost 25 inches (0.63 meters) of sea level rise in Galveston, Texas, and just under 2 feet (0.6 meters) in St. Petersburg, Florida, while only 9 inches (0.23 inches) in Seattle and 14 inches (0.36 meters) in Los Angeles


* Sea level rise will create a profound shift in coastal flooding over the next 30 years by causing tide and storm surge heights to increase and reach further inland. By 2050, “moderate” (typically damaging) flooding is expected to occur, on average, more than 10 times as often as it does today, and can be intensified by local factors.

* Current and future emissions matter. About 2 feet (0.6 meters) of sea level rise along the U.S. coastline is increasingly likely between 2020 and 2100 because of emissions to date. Failing to curb future emissions could cause an additional 1.5 - 5 feet (0.5 - 1.5 meters) of rise for a total of 3.5 - 7 feet (1.1 - 2.1 meters) by the end of this century.

* Continuously tracking how and why sea level is changing is an important part of informing plans for adaptation. Our ability to monitor and understand the individual factors that contribute to sea level rise allows us to track sea level changes in a way that has never before been possible (e.g., using satellites to track global ocean levels and ice sheet thickness). Ongoing and expanded monitoring will be critical as sea levels continue to rise.

More about ➥ https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/hazard...ch-report.html

2022 Sea Level Rise Technical Report
➥ https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/hazard...-sections.html
➥ https://aambpublicoceanservice.blob....enarios-US.pdf


NOAA’s Sea Level Rise Viewer ➥ https://coast.noaa.gov/slr/

Damn what an error range. Sorry but I have to say that they are severely wrong.

The numbers don't lie. They currently say approximately 3.6 mm per year and the report above says it will accelerate to 11mm per year ? sorry but not happening . But have to give them props for the fear porn .

[SailOar]

Originally Posted by newhaul

They currently say approximately 3.6 mm per year and the report above says it will accelerate to 11mm per year ? sorry but not happening .

What is the scientific basis for your analysis?

[SailOar]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Name for me 3 different MMGWC predictions that have come to pass that are not easily explained without the all mighty man caused .
Just a. Simple 3 things.

Who will do the adjudication?

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by SailOar

What is the scientific basis for your analysis?

Simple the amount of sea level rise has been consistent for the last several thousand years.

Heck it has been very consistent over the last 100 years that NOAA has maintained tidal gauges. Do your research.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by SailOar

Who will do the adjudication?

I will show the scientific basis for why your claims are wrong and not man caused.

Conversely if it is purely man then my research will back your claims.

Interestingly this is the first response I have ever gotten to my challenge . I have put it forth for years . Please provide something for me to research.

[SailOar]

Originally Posted by newhaul

I will show the scientific basis for why your claims are wrong and not man caused.

Conversely if it is purely man then my research will back your claims.

Interestingly this is the first response I have ever gotten to my challenge . I have put it forth for years . Please provide something for me to research.

Sorry, I would prefer an independent third party who had professional experience in the relevant discipline.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by SailOar

Sorry, I would prefer an independent third party who had professional experience in the relevant discipline.

In other words you can't name 3 things .
Heck just 2 then . I'm sure you can find 2 just to prove me wrong.

[SailOar]

Originally Posted by newhaul

In other words you can't name 3 things .
Heck just 2 then . I'm sure you can find 2 just to prove me wrong.

The sticking point is not my inability to come up with possibilities, but rather who it is who will make the final decision.

[SailOar]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Simple the amount of sea level rise has been consistent for the last several thousand years.

Heck it has been very consistent over the last 100 years that NOAA has maintained tidal gauges. Do your research.

Do your own research. The rate of sea level rise and fall has often changed in the past, for a variety of reasons. You appeared to claim to know that the rate of sea level will not increase in the future. I have asked you to give a scientific reason for your assertion. If you cannot do so that will provide further evidence that you would likely not be an ideal adjudicator for our other question.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_sea_level