Ocean acidifcation .

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Exile

As Jackdale & others love to point out, almost every major institution and academic research facility have come out supporting the mainstream AGW position, so if you go to work for one of them your best chance of getting a grant is research which supports your employer's stated position. .

Do not associate my name with your BS.

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by Exile

You mean it hasn't already happened?

Yeah, nah. I think it's in that really long queue of maybe's and could's.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by newhaul

pie chart time

No attribution!

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Exile

Let's try and put an early end to the suspense on this one for a change. I know Zharkova puts greater emphasis on Newhaulesque() solar output theories, but what is this particular scientist's overall position on AGW? It sounds like she acknowledges the role of CO2 in warming (they all do), and your post suggests she also believes GW is a threat (that we need more time to deal effectively with). IOW, is she one of the skeptics ineligible for publication these days or what?

From an interview

However, Zharkova ends with a word of warning: not about the cold but about humanity's attitude toward the environment during the minimum. We must not ignore the effects of global warming and assume that it isn't happening. “The Sun buys us time to stop these carbon emissions,” Zharkova says. The next minimum might give the Earth a chance to reduce adverse effects from global warming.

https://www.iflscience.com/environme...lobal-warming/

[Exile]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Do not associate my name with your BS.

I did not associate it with a true statement? Which major institutions have not come out pro-AGW? Or are we just back to your real "business as usual?"

[Exile]

Originally Posted by jackdale

From an interview

Quote:
However, Zharkova ends with a word of warning: not about the cold but about humanity's attitude toward the environment during the minimum. We must not ignore the effects of global warming and assume that it isn't happening. “The Sun buys us time to stop these carbon emissions,” Zharkova says. The next minimum might give the Earth a chance to reduce adverse effects from global warming.

https://www.iflscience.com/environme...lobal-warming/

Well then, now we know who's propagating the BS, don't we? Zharkova is largely supportive of the mainstream AGW position and THAT explains why she is not prevented from publishing. You'll need some more credible "evidence" to support your "assertion" that skeptics are not being denied access.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

But I will say that imo there is a whiff of gravy train that hangs over the climate science industry.

William Happer explains the route taken by his gravy train.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...ors-Trust.html

[Exile]

Originally Posted by jackdale

William Happer explains the route taken by his gravy train.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...ors-Trust.html

Yes, the route right to a charitable foundation. You're now digging quite deep, so it may be best to stop digging.

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by jackdale

William Happer explains the route taken by his gravy train.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...ors-Trust.html

I had to read the first paragraph of that. I mistook it initially for climategate.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Exile

Well then, now we know who's propagating the BS, don't we? Zharkova is largely supportive of the mainstream AGW position and THAT explains why she is not prevented from publishing. You'll need some more credible "evidence" to support your "assertion" that skeptics are not being denied access.

It is newhauls assertion that folks like Zharkova, who do not toe the official AGW line to a tee, are prevented from publishing. The mainstream AGW does not give much credence to a catastrophic GSM as pushed by newhaul.

BTW you should check out the YouTube channels on the topic:


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP0...600NS7lKEZtJqQ

https://www.youtube.com/user/Suspicious0bservers

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

I had to read the first paragraph of that. I mistook it initially for climategate.

Read the rest.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Exile

Yes, the route right to a charitable foundation. You're now digging quite deep, so it may be best to stop digging.

Hide the money.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Exile

I did not associate it with a true statement? Which major institutions have not come out pro-AGW? Or are we just back to your real "business as usual?"

Name a tenured professor whose position was threatened by his position on climate change.

Oh, other than Michael Mann.

[Exile]

Originally Posted by jackdale

It is newhauls assertion that folks like Zharkova, who do not toe the official AGW line to a tee, are prevented from publishing. The mainstream AGW does not give much credence to a catastrophic GSM as pushed by newhaul.

BTW you should check out the YouTube channels on the topic:


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP0...600NS7lKEZtJqQ

https://www.youtube.com/user/Suspicious0bservers

Looks to me like she's getting published, and seems generally supportive of the core AGW theories. So using her as a way to rebut the criticism that skeptics are not getting published looks like BS to me. Maybe you can come up with better examples and I'll gladly retract my BS judgment.

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Read the rest.

I don't want to break your heart, but I don't see anything sinister at all in that correspondence. It's not like there's any "It's a travesty we cannot hide the decline" shenanigans going on.


What's the crime exactly?