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07-08-2019, 21:14
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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Name a tenured professor whose position was threatened by his position on climate change.
Oh, other than Michael Mann.
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I'm not signing up for another episode of the Gong Show. I associated your name with your oft-repeated comment that all major research institutions tow the party line. Is that true or is that BS? Here, I'll expedite -- it's likely true and you've often repeated it. Do you even know what you're calling BS on?
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07-08-2019, 21:17
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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Looks to me like she's getting published, and seems generally supportive of the core AGW theories. So using her as a way to rebut the criticism that skeptics are not getting published looks like BS to me. Maybe you can come up with better examples and I'll gladly retract my BS judgment.
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These skeptics got published.
https://link.springer.com/article/10...191-013-9647-9
http://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/3/8/1603/pdf (although found to the poorly -reviewed.)
https://www.int-res.com/abstracts/cr/v23/n2/p89-110/
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07-08-2019, 21:19
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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I associated your name with your oft-repeated comment that all major research institutions tow the party line.
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That is a lie. I said they affirm the science. You implication is foul.
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07-08-2019, 21:20
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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Name a tenured professor whose position was threatened by his position on climate change.
Oh, other than Michael Mann.
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as you say, citations?
Wasn't Judith Currie forced into a corner and forced to resign?
Peter Ridd was sacked.
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07-08-2019, 21:23
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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I don't want to break your heart, but I don't see anything sinister at all in that correspondence. It's not like there's any "It's a travesty we cannot hide the decline" shenanigans going on.
What's the crime exactly?
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Here, maybe I can help. Happer was/is a highly respected prof from Princeton. Physics as I recall. His real crime is having the temerity to refuse to call CO2 a "pollutant," and also claim it's necessary & healthy for the planet, even though he's warned about all the other actual pollutants emitted from fossil fuels which are harmful.
After retirement he started an educational charitable foundation. (Evil) oil interests have donated (surprise, surprise). No evidence he gets anything out of it except reimbursement for expenses and maybe a stipend. End of story.
Oh wait, almost forgot -- he's an outspoken skeptic/denier/dismissive/whatever. 'Nuff said?
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07-08-2019, 21:23
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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I not has anyone credible on the natural climate side ever said what you are saying jack
You are in fact the first one to say catastrophic GSM .
I have never said catastrophic . Not one time
Who is pushing a false narrative .
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07-08-2019, 21:26
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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That is a lie. I said they affirm the science. You implication is foul.
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OK, no problem with that. They "affirm" the science. Not sure what you're reading into here, but no implication intended. Boy would I have loved to be a fly-on-the-wall during your exchange with Lord Monckton.
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07-08-2019, 21:27
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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And what did baller create that is used in the whole MMGW theory? Without the misuse of it it there would be no MMGWC .
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07-08-2019, 21:30
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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as you say, citations?
Wasn't Judith Currie forced into a corner and forced to resign?
Yes, and then testified to the US Congress all about it.
Peter Ridd was sacked.
Yes, and won a lawsuit over it.
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You'd think with so much "certainty" out there about the (real) science, such draconian behavior wouldn't be necessary.
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07-08-2019, 21:31
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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as you say, citations?
Wasn't Judith Currie forced into a corner and forced to resign?
Peter Ridd was sacked.
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https://www.whistleblower.org/genera...-michael-mann/
Curry chose to resign and start a private business.
https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060047798
Ridd's case is still before the courts.
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From the ruling (Reasons):
2. Though many of those issues ((freedom of speech and intellectual freedom) were canvased and discussed throughout the hearing of this matter, this trial was about none of the above. Rather, this trial was purely and simply about the proper construction of a clause in an Enterprise Agreement. Whilst the Court acknowledges that there may be consequences that touch upon these other issues because of the Court’s construction of that clause, none of those consequences can play any part in the determination of the proper construction of that clause.
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07-08-2019, 21:32
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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Name a tenured professor whose position was threatened by his position on climate change.
Oh, other than Michael Mann.
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you mean when he lost a defamation suit and counter suit involving Dr ball an actual Dr of climatology .
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07-08-2019, 21:32
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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And what did baller create that is used in the whole MMGW theory? Without misusing it there would be no MMGWC .
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Huh??
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07-08-2019, 21:35
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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2003, 2011, 2015. It's a start, and certainly better than the Zharkova paper.
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07-08-2019, 21:36
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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you mean when he lost a defamation suit and counter suit involving Dr ball an actual Dr of climatology .
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That is not yet settled. Mann did win a case against the Frontier Centre for Public Policy in which Ball is a co-defendant.
https://globalpossibilities.org/mich...ey-apologized/
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07-08-2019, 21:40
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#930
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Re: Ocean acidifcation .
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you mean when he lost a defamation suit and counter suit involving Dr ball an actual Dr of climatology .
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Tim Ball is not a professor of climatology. There was no department of climatology at the University of Winnipeg. He was a geography professor for 8 years with a degree in historical geography.
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