Bottom Paint in Washington State-Help!

[fstbttms]

Originally Posted by vonotto

Petite makes all the west marine paint. Like the PCA Gold I get is actually the Petite Trinidad SR (I think that's the one petite told me).

In my many decades of maintaining boat bottoms, I have never heard that there is a West Marine anti fouing paint product that is simply re-branded Pettit Trinidad. In addition, Trinidad SR is a hard paint. PCA Gold is an ablative.

Update: Having looked at the West Marine website, I find one hard anti fouling paint with a West Marine label- their BottomShield product. But it is a water-based paint, which means it is not the same paint as any version of Pettit Trinidad.

[vonotto]

Here is the info I just found:

West Marine offers three re-branded Pettit paints to serve the needs of most boaters. Its ablative paints, PCA Gold (Ultima SR 40), and West Marine CPP (Ultima SSA) are still in the race, with the more expensive PCA Gold garnering Good in Florida. The reformulated West Marine Bottomshield (Unepoxy LD) is faring much better than the older formula Unepoxy at 12 months.

[vonotto]

I was wrong on the type it was sorry............but yes even west marine will tell you they are re branded Petite. And you can read the 2009 October issue of Practical Sailor where they talk about it.

[fstbttms]

Originally Posted by vonotto

I was wrong on the type it was sorry............but yes even west marine will tell you they are re branded Petite. And you can read the 2009 October issue of Practical Sailor where they talk about it.

I didn't say that West Marine paints aren't made by Pettit. Of course they are. West Marine does not make their own paints- of any variety. What I said was that West Marine PCA Gold is not relabeled Pettit Trinidad.

[vonotto]

Ok not arguing, as I said I got the type of Petite wrong. Sorry.

[DLECF]

Originally Posted by CommodoreDoug

Happy Springtime from the Salish Sea. And Spring means bottom paint and I am badly in need of advice of which paint to use.

Firstly let me state I rarely if ever ask for advice, so you know I'm in a serious quandary.

Washington has postponed banning copper-based anti-fouling so copper won't be a barrier (sorry) to which paint I choose.

The situation:

Here in Washington, we can no longer clean our boats in our slips if we have ablative bottom paint as we're not allowed to "cloud" the water in the marina.

I no longer wish to dive my own boat and my 37' sloop will never achieve the speed required to effectively use self-polishing bottom paint.

I have never used a non-ablative and want a product that will last multiple seasons but would like to avoid a major bottom prep project to be able to apply the new paint.

The cost is irrelevant. I will spend what takes to obtain the best paint for my needs.

And now, ladies and gentlemen, I thank you in advance and anxiously await your wise recommendations for choosing a hard shell bottom paint for a cruising sailboat.

My Santa Cruz 33 bottom was painted with Pettit Trinidad SR hard antifouling paint which lasted 7 years in Budd Inlet, Olympia, WA. The boat was actively raced and had the bottom wiped every 3 months and before every major race. I assume that you are aware that the hard bottom paint substrate will build up over time and will eventually need to be removed.
My 30' trawler has Interlux Micron CSC durable ablative bottom paint. I expect to get about 5 years with the Micron CSC before repainting the bottom. If the diver uses a soft cloth for bottom cleaning, there is no obvious paint released into the water.

[01kiwijohn]

I changed to Micron 66, prior to a recent trip to Hawaii, because it was recommended by the manufacturer rep. It is expensive but, I save by hauling every three years, versus two.
Over the past 6 years, it has proven to perform well and is cost effective.
In compliance with pending regulations, their replacement version is Micron 99.

[fstbttms]

Originally Posted by DLECF

My 30' trawler has Interlux Micron CSC durable ablative bottom paint. If the diver uses a soft cloth for bottom cleaning, there is no obvious paint released into the water.

If your diver is cleaning the Micron CSC, he is in violation. Cleaning of ablative paints is illegal in your state, plume or not.

[senormechanico]

Pettit:



Petite:

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by fstbttms

If your diver is cleaning the Micron CSC, he is in violation. Cleaning of ablative paints is illegal in your state, plume or not.

all of my diver friends say otherwise

[fstbttms]

Originally Posted by newhaul

all of my diver friends say otherwise

Maybe your diver friends should talk to the Dept. of Ecology Northwest Region Manager like I did. Because I asked him that very question this morning.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by fstbttms

Maybe your diver friends should talk to the Dept. of Ecology Northwest Region Manager like I did. Because I asked him that very question this morning.

ok did they tell you the exact regulation number?
They will also tell you that puget sound is a ndz and it not designated that yet . May never be in the actual rules either.
I honestly would like to know.

[senormechanico]

When they get rid of CSO's maybe I'll give a crap about this "plume" baloney.

[fstbttms]

Originally Posted by newhaul

ok did they tell you the exact regulation number?

RCW 90.48.080

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by fstbttms

RCW 90.48.080

thank you

The issue is it doesn't cover ablative paints on boats its classic government overreach .

RCW 90.48.080
Discharge of polluting matter in waters prohibited.
It shall be unlawful for any person to throw, drain, run, or otherwise discharge into any of the waters of this state, or to cause, permit or suffer to be thrown, run, drained, allowed to seep or otherwise discharged into such waters any organic or inorganic matter that shall cause or tend to cause pollution of such waters according to the determination of the department, as provided for in this chapter

This was written and enacted in 1987