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Old 21-11-2022, 11:32   #1
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2022 Antifouling Med and Caribbean. Pls read post 1 before reply. Thanks.

Hi,

after my previous threads to this did not yield useful results, I give it another try.

Trying to find the best solution for us.

If anyone likes to suggest a commercial source and paint, feel free to PM me, appreciate it.
We are currently in Portugal/Spain.

PLEASE DO NOT TURN THIS INTO AN ENVIRONMENTAL THREAD, IF YOU WANT THAT OPEN YOUR OWN THREAD. THANK YOU.

I am looking for a strong antifouling suitable for one season in the WESTERN MED followed possibly MULTIPLE seasons in the Carribean. So only folks with experience in warm waters need to reply please.
ABC3 is apparently not sold in EUROPE, so I'm looking for good alternatives.
We do not have the cash for COPPERCOAT application at this time.

Currently we have Hempel Pro (https://www.dsg-schiffsausruester.de...240/p-961.html) on it and it's not living up to the expectations after the first season.

Boat is a 35 ft/10.6m catamaran.
We are cruising casually not racing, typical boat speed is 5-6kn, we had a max of 12kn so far.
We frequently anchor for several weeks in a row.
Hardly ever in a marina.
Boat stays in the water all year, apart from drying out occasionally.

Ideal would be if we can apply it over several tide cycles. Basically put half a coat on in the first cycle than add the other one in the next. Repeat that until three coats are on. Repeat on hull number two.

We do all work ourselves.

Thanks for suggestions as to what to use and what to avoid.
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Old 21-11-2022, 11:38   #2
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I use Jotun Red which I buy at the fisherman's store by the fish docks near the Portimao boatyards.. works well and is cheaper than the chandler's.. just one thing, it's not a hard a/f.
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Old 21-11-2022, 11:53   #3
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Re: 2022 Antifouling Med and Caribbean. Pls read post 1 before reply. Thanks.

Great reply thanks.
You mean the Angelpilot shop?
Do you happen to know the exact product name?
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I'll find it. Do you know the precise product name? Any chance that exists in black too?
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Thanks, that's not Angelpilot. I'll find it. Do you know the precise product name? Any chance that exists in black too?
It just had Jotun on the can.. as far as I know it only comes in red, but that was back in 2019.. don't think fishermen are that fussy..
Mind they might carry Seaguardian these days which is black.
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It just had Jotun on the can.. as far as I know it only comes in red, but that was back in 2019.. don't think fishermen are that fussy..
Mind they might carry Seaguardian these days which is black.
If it works, I'll use it. To heck with the color then :-)
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Re: 2022 Antifouling Med and Caribbean. Pls read post 1 before reply. Thanks.

I use sea jet itís ď okĒ
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Old 24-11-2022, 04:41   #8
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I use sea jet itís ď okĒ
Thanks, I hope to find something slightly better than "ok".
But, I keep your suggestions as contingency in my mind. Thanks.
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Re: 2022 Antifouling Med and Caribbean. Pls read post 1 before reply. Thanks.

For me in Greece conostedctlnwheb I was in France fouling is low and I get 2-3 years from sea jet antifpuling. A driver cleans thd hull once a year typically.
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Lol, that diver is me :-)
Just cleaned a friends 48ft catamaran with 3 years growth, using a Hookah...
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Iím not what you want. The easiest way to answer is to go into a local chandlery where youíre keeping thd BOAT AND ASK.
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Re: 2022 Antifouling Med and Caribbean. Pls read post 1 before reply. Thanks.

I’m not sure about the availability of the Petit brand where you are, but I get YEARS out of it in tropical and temperate waters.

The main things to look for are an ablative paint with 60% copper or more along with biocides.

As it ablates, the fresh biocides are exposed and it just stays clean.

https://www.wholesalemarine.com/pett...kaAsbVEALw_wcB

Don’t try to save any money here. A haul out is way WAY more expensive than any type of price difference in bottom paint.

The more haul outs you can skip, the more you save, regardless of paint price.
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Iím not sure about the availability of the Petit brand where you are, but I get YEARS out of it in tropical and temperate waters.

The main things to look for are an ablative paint with 60% copper or more along with biocides.

As it ablates, the fresh biocides are exposed and it just stays clean.

https://www.wholesalemarine.com/pett...kaAsbVEALw_wcB

Donít try to save any money here. A haul out is way WAY more expensive than any type of price difference in bottom paint.

The more haul outs you can skip, the more you save, regardless of paint price.


Petite in the med is nearly impossible to source I donít think it complies with EU ELINCS process anyway.
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Iím not what you want. The easiest way to answer is to go into a local chandlery where youíre keeping thd BOAT AND ASK.
Well and the chandlery is going to sell you some crappy overpriced over eco friendly yachty stuff which you need to slap on every year.

90% of chandleries are ripping folks off because boat folks have a lot of money.
Other sources, like the shops where the local fishermen buy are usually much cheaper.

Luckily I have meanwhile found the paint store where the locals buy.
Much cheaper than the chandleries and, a wide range of options too.
Not going to post the store details here though before all is done.
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Iím not sure about the availability of the Petit brand where you are, but I get YEARS out of it in tropical and temperate waters.

The main things to look for are an ablative paint with 60% copper or more along with biocides.

As it ablates, the fresh biocides are exposed and it just stays clean.

https://www.wholesalemarine.com/pett...kaAsbVEALw_wcB

Donít try to save any money here. A haul out is way WAY more expensive than any type of price difference in bottom paint.

The more haul outs you can skip, the more you save, regardless of paint price.
Thanks Chotu, unfortunately GBN is right, there are a lot of things like Petite or ABC3 which we can not get over here.
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