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01-01-2010, 13:45
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Jim Brown’s Coming Seaclipper 20 Trimaran (the 'Janganda')
I borrowed this from the Searunner forum. Thanks to Steve Ripples for this: From Steve's other post.
Jim Brown's Coming Seaclipper 20 trimaran (the "Janganda") | Small Trimarans
Highly recommend the mp3 of Jim talking about the boat. I contacted the Searunner design partnership about plans and got an email (extremely quickly) from John Marples saying that it was Jim's project, that he hasn't quite finished the plan package and is at present cruising off South America, not expected back for 3 weeks or so. How old is Jim? He's still cruising? Way to go! Now that's a man that just loves what he's doing.
I wanted to make this a new thread, because Jim Brown is a very special kind of designer/man. If you listen to his audio file, you will hear him explain all the reasons behind every thing on this boat. The material, the construction methods, the availability to make it your self. Jim has always, since the 1960's been a designer who knew his boats where for the home builder, and yet they were going around the world. Imagine the worry of a designer watching complete novices building, and those same builders saying they are heading out....and they had never been on a boat!
He always kept the material in line with what was needed to get the joib done, at a reasonable cost and time. That is harder than is seems I bet. Keeping it simple but not too simple. Strong, plenty strong, but not too heavy.
There is a genius in Jim. He could have gone to the top no doubt. Designing million dollar exotic machines. But he didn't. He is still fighting high costs and unreachable boats for the regular sort of guy.
The Sea Clipper line of boats (sold by John Marples) were designed to have a guy bang them out, and get out there sailing to far off places. They are not the lightest, fastest, or latest design going. But they are hell for stout and rugged and can pack a load. More like a serious offroad utility vehicle, that just happens to be fast and comfortable.
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01-01-2010, 14:25
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Slightly off topic but perhaps you are the person to ask, is there anywhere on the net to look more closely at these designs (the 44), the only thing I can find is this which is pathetically devoid of useful information
SEARUNNER 50 Hardtop Charter Catamaran
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02-01-2010, 07:31
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Hi, Dana http://www.duckflatwoodenboats.com/m...gallery?KID=55 has the outline information.
Hi, Jmolan, good idea to make a thread just for the new Seaclipper 20. Do you get the feeling interest in the Searunners is on the up and up? Hope so, maybe it's because the design values are more long lasting than onboard HDTV....
Now I have a real dilemma on my hands - build my own cruising tri half-size model for testing which will come out about the 18-20 size, or go for the new Seaclipper. What the hell, either would teach me a great deal. Or how about building both? Steady, now...
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02-01-2010, 16:02
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Thanks! I might do one of these in the future just for fun.
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Maren
The sea is always beautiful, sometimes mysterious and, on occasions, frighteningly powerful.
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22-01-2010, 18:40
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Swing wings for Seaclipper 20 tri
Is anyone aware of Marples or Brown design which swings the floats fore or aft to reduce the width to road clearance??
Thanks,
Bob G.
Huntsville, Tx.
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23-01-2010, 08:34
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Non that I am aware of, but I am not sure how Jim will design his nest boat the 20' on this thread.
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23-01-2010, 08:38
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This is one of the few swing wings I know of. Antrim rocket, has made all kinds of 1st place runs. Google Jim Antrim for more info.
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25-02-2010, 08:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ppl_rjg
Is anyone aware of Marples or Brown design which swings the floats fore or aft to reduce the width to road clearance??
Thanks,
Bob G.
Huntsville, Tx.
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Jim Brown's newest design, the SeaClipper 20, does in fact employ a swing wing for docking and trailering, which brings the amas underneath its fixed 8' x 8' platform.
Jim intends to release the SeaClipper 20 design plans in the near future.
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26-02-2010, 14:15
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Seaclipper 20 tri
Quote:
Originally Posted by ppl_rjg
Is anyone aware of Marples or Brown design which swings the floats fore or aft to reduce the width to road clearance??
Thanks,
Bob G.
Huntsville, Tx.
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Just found out on the Webb a link to Jim Brown's CC20 which is swing wing and looks like a honey! Take a look:
http://www.seaworthysolutions.net/f/SEACLIPPER_20_Study_Plans_PDF.pdf
No commercial interest, etc.
Bob G.
Huntsville, Tx
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28-02-2010, 11:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ppl_rjg
Just found out on the Webb a link to Jim Brown's CC20 which is swing wing and looks like a honey!
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Good find! I'm quite certain the drawings are the real deal. I say that because:
- I spoke with Jim Brown last weekend who showed me the model he was working on which matches the drawings. The model is his way of physically verifying what he has imagined will work in 3D. The main hull is identical to the drawings, as are the asymmetrical amas.
- Jim said two real boatbuilders, both name Scott with one living St Augustine, were going to build the prototypes in order to help with feed back. I had thought he meant amateur boatbuilders but from the plans I now assume he meant pro.
- Jim said he was going to put the study plans on line but the finals would be for sale.
- He noted he was also working with John Marples on this.
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Maren
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06-03-2010, 15:08
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As I can not find a WR17, at a reasonable price, here in Aus', and sellers of WR17's overseas are less than forthcomming with details I "need" to import, that leaves me with one "easy" choice.
I "will" build a JB Seaclipper 20...Just as soon as I can buy and get my hands on the plans
JB, releasing your SC20 plans for sale can't happen soon enough for me
Cheers,
Bill
AU
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28-03-2010, 07:04
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The first Seaclipper 20 is being built at my shop now and will be at the Cedar Key Meet. Jim Brown will also likely be there.
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28-03-2010, 16:55
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Pictures Please
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Originally Posted by xsboats
The first Seaclipper 20 is being built at my shop now and will be at the Cedar Key Meet. Jim Brown will also likely be there.
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Good! I hope you take pictures of the build stages and...Post them here
I look forward to buying the plans for JB's SC20 when they, soon I hope, become available.
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29-03-2010, 08:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xsboats
The first Seaclipper 20 is being built at my shop now and will be at the Cedar Key Meet. Jim Brown will also likely be there.
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That's wonderful! I do hope you'll post some photos along the way.
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Maren
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