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tamicatana · 16-08-2012, 10:23

Cap Phil,

When you mentioned that the WW tri died, I was curious, because Smyth is my sailmaker, and he's the guy who actually drove the boat. So I did a search, and found this, sorry about the lack of paragraph/punctuation:

"WATERWORLD TRIMARAN - recent interest
Two boats were built for the movie by Jeanneau - Lagoon in france - one was the sailing version - and the second was used as the "transformer" version - these were off-the-shelf ORMA 60' trimaran racing machines with a 45' beam - the sailing version cost $910,000. f.o.b France & the transformer version cost $810,000. f.o.b. france - the hulls - connectives etc were flown to Hawaii & assembled by a French crew of technicians - & handed over to Universal for the Ugly-fication process & installation of the working & non-working props - (eg. the telescoping boom actually worked on the transformer version - while the sailing version boom is covered with sheet metal to make it look like it is a fully extended telescoping boom) - the sailing version was operated below decks in two compartments - various sheets - halyards - topping lifts etc were operated by either 2 Lewmar handcrank #66 selftailers behind line clutches - or - 2 Harken horizontal alloy electric #74.2 monsters - standing rigging was 25mm & 30mm 1x19 316ss wire with monster turnbuckles - steering was below decks forward of the mast & hydraulic - the steering pedestal that Costner operated in the cockpit area had a hydraulic pump that was plumbed into the below deck hydraulic steering lines - I think that the neatest prop was the slicer bob-stay - the hulls were constructed of divynl closed cell core with facings of glass & carbon fiber with epoxy resin vacuum bagged - lots of epoxy/micro balloon type fairing was used on all hulls - the connectives are constructed of carbon fiber / epoxy - an upper & lower "Plate" box beam structure with thin sides - the curvature to the connectives is foam/glass/epoxy sandwitch streamlining - dagger board is aft of the forward connective - for the movie the case was stubbed off & didn't go thru deck as it would have gotten in the way of below decks line handling - the aluminum stick with rotating base measures 75 feet & was garbaged-up with heavy props & a masthead over the real masthead - the massive spreaders don't do anything for me & will be removed - the whole mast system was a weight-aloft nightmare - the diesel was a volvo 4 cyl 48 hp freshwater cooled with maxi sail drive - the boat was sailed for about 5 1/2 months for the movie & the diesel hour meter shows 720 hours - - Universal shipped the sailing version to Orlando & placed it in the WATERWORLD show for about 6 years - - the boat has been pretty well beat up & was not maintained - - I bought the boat with some of the props fron King Kona Productions (Universal) in March of 2004 - will be repairing the boat & rig & using it for cruising once its done - My son & I will be getting the boat back together - we both have experience building & cruising trimarans - - - named it UGLY SISTER as it is the uglyest sister ship of this design - - - Dale Miami"

Capt Phil · 16-08-2012, 12:38

That is truly good news. I was clearly under a misguided perception. Better expressed as I was wrong. that is why CF is such a great resource. I stand corrected. Thanks, Tamif27... cheers, Capt Phil

snort · 17-08-2012, 21:53

Latitude 38 - The West's Premier Sailing and Marine Magazine

Depending on what one is looking for, the Cross and the Tradewinds look like they might be worth a look. This is a time-limited link, obviously.

snort · 18-08-2012, 23:10

Ahhhh, here it is: The Incredible Hulk!
CATAMARAN

"Behold this beautiful creation! Start dreaming of coral atolls under swaying palms and gentle breezes with brilliantly clear turquoise waters. The only thing this fine craft needs is a willing crew and very minor cosmetic touch-ups..."
The graffiti comes at no extra charge! Included in the sale is an array of spray paint cans in an assortment of colors so you can arrive at a more or less uniform coloration according to your own taste.

ausaviator · 18-08-2012, 23:12

50 years ago you would have classed that as state of the art.

Because it hasn't been launched, it's still classed as "as new."

snort · 18-08-2012, 23:18

Gilbert says the boat is "unfinished". Can you believe the modesty of the man?
He calls this bristol specimen unfinished!

Eleven · 19-08-2012, 00:46

That Prout looks a good buy. A cruisers boat for sure, comfy, safe, sound, and yes slow.
But the hulls are probably sound, the though hull cocks are probably frozen, the cordage is probably knackered, and sails are mouldy. At fifty k it is still a mobile home for a family of four. They were built in the sixties to last, and they have. And they still will.

laforge24 · 19-08-2012, 03:26

Love this 'lower' section on CF
still amazed by some US prices, and that cross, if it was here(eur) I was looking at her now, but from such a unknown vessel do we know its seacapacity,
try find me some 'do-er-uppers closer by
fair wind