Sailboat under 40 feet with large tankage

[Lowcountry]

My 1988 HC33 has 90 gallons of water and 80 gallons of diesel. Some HC33's report having as much as 120 gallons of water, but mine (and others) are reported to be only 90 gallons. It's still a lot of water for a 33' boat. As for the HC/Baba comparison, they are very similar boats with very similar build quality. I owned a Mason 44 (Ta Shing, same yard that built Babas), and now own this HC33 (Shin Fa). These boats built in Taiwan in the 1970's and 1980's have pretty good build qualities. They are heavy and robust with lots of great joinery and woodwork. The designs and functionality are pretty well thought out. I'm a big fan of boats from both companies. They all want 12+kts of wind to go sailing.

[kloekj]

Oyster 39

400 gallons of watee
100gallons of diesel with a great stowawa to keep another 30 gallons

[shimari]

My '07 Beneteau 373 has 104 gallons of water (two tanks), and 33 gallons of diesel. The holding tank is 21 gallons.

[argonauta1]

Some of the Beneteau built yachts to Mooorings/Sunsail specs have larger than stock tankage. For example, the Moorings Beneteau 445 had Diesel 53 US Gal and Water 200 US Gal.

[Hoodsail]

Originally Posted by kloekj

Oyster 39

400 gallons of watee
100gallons of diesel with a great stowawa to keep another 30 gallons

Arent these volumes in liters?? 400 gallons = 3300 pounds!! you gotta be stinkin' thirsty to carry that much water on the wrong side of your hull, no?!

[ben2go]

You can always use fuel bladders and collapsible water jugs/bladders to up volumes. They aren't to bad to store just keep them out of the sun. I recommend using water bladders in case the tank(s) get contaminated with bad water which is very possible outside the first world. I also carry iodine and chlorine to be sure there is a way to treat the water. I also keep a water pitcher with a charcoal filter (with extra filters) to make sure the chlorine or iodine) is removed for drinking. Some people collect rain water. I find that to be a good idea, al tho I've only done this on land. If you run out of fuel, you can sail. It will be inconvenient with a steep learning curve, but highly doable just ask Kevin Boothby. His gaff rigged cutter has no engine/motor of any kind.

[john manning]

The Prout Manta catamaran (that is an Escale finished by Prout South Africa) is 39ft and had 100 gallons of fuel and 220 gallons of water. In my one the tankage was reversed for long distance motoring, (1400nm range at 6kts).

[SuW]

Someone mentioned Canadian boats (Bayfield and Gozzard).

Bayfield 30/32; 20 gals fuel/30 gals water (variable). Displacement 9600 lbs. Draft 3 feet 9 inches. I own one and I wouldn't cross an ocean in one. Small interior; limited storage capacity. Cruising the Great Lakes or coastal cruising, a couple of weeks away for a couple.

Gozzard 31; 55 gals fuel/water (variable). Displacement 10,500 lbs. Draft 4 feet 4 inches. Also for coastal cruising, imo.

Both are good boats (if well-maintained) but the Gozzards will run you twice the price of an equivalent Bayfield. They're generally newer and better built, mostly bespoke.

Might I suggest:

Westsail 32; 42 gals diesel/80 gals fuel. Displacement 19500 lbs. Draft 5 feet. Capable of crossing oceans, but these boats are pretty old now.

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by kloekj

Oyster 39

400 gallons of watee
100gallons of diesel with a great stowawa to keep another 30 gallons

???

Sailboat data sez 37 gallons water... 3200 lbs of water in a 39 foot boat seems quite a load to carry were it true!

Jim

[sddmack]

For the two digit IPs:

IP 40 - 90 gal fuel, 170 gal water
IP 38 - 57 gal fuel, 187 gal water
IP 37 - 50 gal fuel, 90 gal water
IP 35 - 48 gal fuel, 90 gal water

The problem you might find with the two digit IPs is that you will need to replace the tanks and the chainplates.

[PaintedKite]

Original equipment on Dufour 382's (37' boats) include 100 gallons of potable (2 tanks) and 50 gallons of diesel (1 tank). That's more than other "production boats" in that size. It's a major reason we chose 'er.

[AJA]

My 1974 Irwin 37 (CCKetch) has 100 gal water and 100 gal diesel. Won't point worth a dime, but very comfortable and extremely tough.

[Wckoek]

Originally Posted by Lowcountry

My 1988 HC33 has 90 gallons of water and 80 gallons of diesel. Some HC33's report having as much as 120 gallons of water, but mine (and others) are reported to be only 90 gallons. It's still a lot of water for a 33' boat. As for the HC/Baba comparison, they are very similar boats with very similar build quality. I owned a Mason 44 (Ta Shing, same yard that built Babas), and now own this HC33 (Shin Fa). These boats built in Taiwan in the 1970's and 1980's have pretty good build qualities. They are heavy and robust with lots of great joinery and woodwork. The designs and functionality are pretty well thought out. I'm a big fan of boats from both companies. They all want 12+kts of wind to go sailing.

Yes, aside from the underpowered rig, HC33 is about as perfect a small full keel type of cruiser can be.
I've only seen a Baba 30, which is a much inferior boat to the HC33, I think Baba 36 is a closer comparison, but still the layout isn't as good as HC33, I like that the bed of HC33 didn't go right in front, I've almost never use the front cabin for sleep while underway, I imagine it would be much more comfortable on the HC33.

Originally Posted by ben2go

You can always use fuel bladders and collapsible water jugs/bladders to up volumes. They aren't to bad to store just keep them out of the sun. I recommend using water bladders in case the tank(s) get contaminated with bad water which is very possible outside the first world. I also carry iodine and chlorine to be sure there is a way to treat the water. I also keep a water pitcher with a charcoal filter (with extra filters) to make sure the chlorine or iodine) is removed for drinking. Some people collect rain water. I find that to be a good idea, al tho I've only done this on land. If you run out of fuel, you can sail. It will be inconvenient with a steep learning curve, but highly doable just ask Kevin Boothby. His gaff rigged cutter has no engine/motor of any kind.

I am looking into the solution as well, thanks.

Originally Posted by SuW

Someone mentioned Canadian boats (Bayfield and Gozzard).

Bayfield 30/32; 20 gals fuel/30 gals water (variable). Displacement 9600 lbs. Draft 3 feet 9 inches. I own one and I wouldn't cross an ocean in one. Small interior; limited storage capacity. Cruising the Great Lakes or coastal cruising, a couple of weeks away for a couple.

Gozzard 31; 55 gals fuel/water (variable). Displacement 10,500 lbs. Draft 4 feet 4 inches. Also for coastal cruising, imo.

Both are good boats (if well-maintained) but the Gozzards will run you twice the price of an equivalent Bayfield. They're generally newer and better built, mostly bespoke.

Might I suggest:

Westsail 32; 42 gals diesel/80 gals fuel. Displacement 19500 lbs. Draft 5 feet. Capable of crossing oceans, but these boats are pretty old now.

30 gallons water and 20 gallons of fuel is pretty much the norm for lower 30 feet boat these days, as I am looking at a Hanse 311, I like the rigging and other aspects of the boat but the tankage is way too small for anything more than a weekend.
There is a Westsail in my neighbouring country, but as you say it is too old, and slow by today's standard.

Originally Posted by sddmack

For the two digit IPs:

IP 40 - 90 gal fuel, 170 gal water
IP 38 - 57 gal fuel, 187 gal water
IP 37 - 50 gal fuel, 90 gal water
IP 35 - 48 gal fuel, 90 gal water

The problem you might find with the two digit IPs is that you will need to replace the tanks and the chainplates.

A lot of people suggested Island Packet, unfortunately they are not common in my region, and it cost a bomb to ship.

[SailnBlue]

There were not many Skookum 34s built, less than 20, I own one as well, but not the pilot house version. It has 80 gallons of fuel and it seems near 160 of water. With at least some of those sold as hull kits, there is wide variation.