C&C Redwing 30 Questions

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by youngson

If you have the money try a survey, what if it come up clean?

Aw, come on Y oungson! His visual inspection has already determined that it won't come up clean on a survey!

Don't confuse the issue...

Jim

[youngson]

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

Aw, come on Y oungson! His visual inspection has already determined that it won't come up clean on a survey!

Don't confuse the issue...

Jim

Hey you never know maybe its structurally sound, and its just aesthetics...
But yah you're right i guess

[lifeofreilly57]

Keels on older C&C's.
A smile is OK, 6", maybe 12", more than than and your probably dropping the keel, at least far enough to clean the sealing surface and rebed it. Not as bad a job as it sounds, especially on a 30 footer.
Extra boat stands, a sense of humor and lots of scraping, of course if that's the case you better be getting a REALLY good price, your labors worth something.
If the bolts and grid are good the cost is rally cheap but lots of sweat equity.
Get a survey or compare it to other boats of the same model to do your own eyeball appraisal. One word of warning, I've seen some really good looking boats, on the surface, that were real pieces of crap, then again I've seen some ugly looking boats that were real gems. Look really hard, with a critical eye at how solid the hull and main gear are, the rest is window dressing.
You can more easily shine a boat up than repair a compromised hull/grid structure.
Haven't found a C&C yet that didn't have some leaking in the chainplates, the ones I've owned I pulled the chainplates, fixed the surrounding core area then glassed in solid with thickened west system and re-cut the through deck slots. Otherwise it's not worth even screwing with. Butyl rubber worked best to seal them.

[dufour35]

Oh hell no! Price is wrong and you will have to glass that crack in the keel!!! Big process will take a lot of work. You will have to shrink wrap or make sure no water gets in the keel area and dry it out till there is no moisture In the fiberglass then you will have to grind all that out and glass it back up but there is more structural to it then that. If its a cored sailboat meaning they cheaped out on using fiberglass and used wood, balsa wood to build up strength then run away.

[dufour35]

Also if it is not a fully incapsulated keel then that is semi normal.

[onestepcsy37]

a c&c redwing sold to a buddy here in central florida for $3000. about in the same shape as yours - atomic 4 and all. he spent a year working on it but it's still in sad shape, imho.

[ahhooker]

Having owned and raced a C&C Redwing 30 for 46 years, I can assure you that most of your "problems" are relatively easy fixes. Rudder not perpendicular: probably worn bushings, should be replaced. Can have local machine shop make some out of bronze or delrin. Scuppers on deck leaking: replace with Moeller motorwell drain tube, $7 at West Marine. Leaky shrouds: dig out old caulk and re-bed them. Keel hull joint: the crack is a common problem with a separate lead keel. Indicates slight flexing but nothing serious. My father used to grind out the joint annually, fill and fair with bondo and paint over. After watching him do this for 16 years, I decided this annual chore was a waste of time. With a grinder I tapered the keel/hull joint, laid in numerous layers of FG tape (2'',4",6",8") and basically fiberglassed the keel to the hull. Has held up great, even when we found an I-beam firmly attached to the bottom of the river from the old Lewiston-Queenston bridge. Hit it head on at 13K over the bottom, and didn't open up the joint. Atomic 4: great engine and next to impossible to kill. Needs clean air, gas and spark. Usually a new/rebuilt carburator will solve most of your ills with it. Check out Redwing30 Home Harbor

[GordMay]

Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, ahhooker.

[Lulabet]

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

Any time a seller says "wasting your money with a survey" my BS alarm rings loudly. Why should he care about your money? Methinks he fears what a surveyor might find and report.

Cheers,

Jim

+1
Me too!

there are surely other 10500$ boats you can select instead!

[Idecrash]

At $10500 hope you didn't wind up getting it. I own a 1969 Redwing 30, no smile no cracks no soft spots. Needs a lot of sweat equity. But a very sound vessel. I only paid $750. Needs new flooring, and the engine needs a rebuild. I'll post pics when I get her ready for sailing.