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23-01-2022, 15:51
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake
Wow, I've just seen this post. Found all the answers.
My favorites: a new Southerly 42 or an old Meadowlark 27.
What do you folks think about the new production monohulls with shallow drafts or swing keels and such? A Cat 355 with wing keel or a Beneteau 34.1 with shallow keel or an IP349 with her full keel or a Sun Odyssey 349 with swing keel is the answer these days? So many choices out there, overwhelming to even think about all the options.
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23-01-2022, 18:54
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#302
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 972
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake
My favorites: a new Southerly 42 or an old Meadowlark 27.
Jacky,
The original Herreshoff Meadowlark was 33 feet. Allan Vaitsies stretched the design to 37 feet in fiberglass, even the masts. A bigger H. design called Golden Ball was also built. There is one for sale near Fort Myers.
Marine Innovators in Bradenton designed and built a more modern and I think better (2 freestanding roller furling masts) sharpie with two bilge boards under the bunks to explore those areas that have not been overpopulated with boats. The Sandpiper 32.
To explain myself: I did 7 years of cruising between 1974 to 1981 before it got popular. i.e. 3 boats in an Island harbor.
I did more in spurts in the 80s and 90s and got out in 2003. Just too many boats. For example 100 in Hope Town, 300 in Georgetown.
That is how I would go if I was a dozen years younger. Alone on a sandbar or in an anchorage anywhere there is 2 feet of water.
Phil Bolger has done a few sharpie designs also. Smaller would be the Egret 25.
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23-01-2022, 21:09
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#303
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake
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Originally Posted by Scaramanga F25
My favorites: a new Southerly 42 or an old Meadowlark 27.
Jacky,
The original Herreshoff Meadowlark was 33 feet. Allan Vaitsies stretched the design to 37 feet in fiberglass, even the masts. A bigger H. design called Golden Ball was also built. There is one for sale near Fort Myers.
Marine Innovators in Bradenton designed and built a more modern and I think better (2 freestanding roller furling masts) sharpie with two bilge boards under the bunks to explore those areas that have not been overpopulated with boats. The Sandpiper 32.
To explain myself: I did 7 years of cruising between 1974 to 1981 before it got popular. i.e. 3 boats in an Island harbor.
I did more in spurts in the 80s and 90s and got out in 2003. Just too many boats. For example 100 in Hope Town, 300 in Georgetown.
That is how I would go if I was a dozen years younger. Alone on a sandbar or in an anchorage anywhere there is 2 feet of water.
Phil Bolger has done a few sharpie designs also. Smaller would be the Egret 25.
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37 I meant to say. Typo.
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23-01-2022, 21:45
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#304
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Minnesota
Boat: Vaitses/Herreshoff Meadow Lark 37'
Posts: 1,083
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake
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Originally Posted by Scaramanga F25
The original Herreshoff Meadowlark was 33 feet. Allan Vaitsies stretched the design to 37 feet in fiberglass, even the masts.
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I'm currently working on a Vaitses/Herreshoff.
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24-01-2022, 14:23
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#305
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake
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Originally Posted by Jdege
I'm currently working on a Vaitses/Herreshoff.
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Awesome. Would you please share a couple of photos?
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24-01-2022, 14:29
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#306
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Annapolis, MD
Boat: Southerly 480
Posts: 374
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake
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Originally Posted by Jacky
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My favorites: a new Southerly 42 or an old Meadowlark 27.
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Sadly, Discovery who was making the 42 has gone into liquidation. I had hull #3 of the 42 on order, and they hadn't completed laminating the hull (or even started). I'm awaiting information from the liquidators.
A new entity, Ocean Shipyard Ltd, https://oceanshipyardlimited.com/ plans to continue making the 42 and the 480 (Discovery 48S). Evidently, they have a number of the crew from Discovery onboard. But, they've not yet established pricing etc.
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24-01-2022, 14:33
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#307
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake
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Originally Posted by shimari
Sadly, Discovery who was making the 42 has gone into liquidation. I had hull #3 of the 42 on order, and they hadn't completed laminating the hull (or even started). I'm awaiting information from the liquidators.
A new entity, Ocean Shipyard Ltd, https://oceanshipyardlimited.com/ plans to continue making the 42 and the 480 (Discovery 48S). Evidently, they have a number of the crew from Discovery onboard. But, they've not yet established pricing etc.
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I wouldn't have been able to afford it anyhow.
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24-01-2022, 14:59
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#308
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Minnesota
Boat: Vaitses/Herreshoff Meadow Lark 37'
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake
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Originally Posted by Jacky
Awesome. Would you please share a couple of photos?
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24-01-2022, 15:04
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#309
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake
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Originally Posted by Jdege
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Wow, such a beauty. Please, keeps us updated as you progress. I've become a big fan here.
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24-01-2022, 15:10
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#310
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Minnesota
Boat: Vaitses/Herreshoff Meadow Lark 37'
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake
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Originally Posted by Jacky
Wow, such a beauty. Please, keeps us updated as you progress. I've become a big fan here.
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She needs a lot of work, but she has potential.
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24-01-2022, 15:24
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake
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Originally Posted by Jdege
She needs a lot of work, but she has potential.
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Can she make it to the Bahamas from Florida when the repairs are done? Her hull design makes me think.
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24-01-2022, 15:42
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake
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Originally Posted by Jdege
She needs a lot of work, but she has potential.
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Well, I've found this link
https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums...ch-236076.html
Yes, she can sail there easily. Strangely, many thought she was a wooden boat. As far as I know, the 37 ft Vaites versions are all fiberglass.
Enjoy!
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24-01-2022, 15:43
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#313
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Minnesota
Boat: Vaitses/Herreshoff Meadow Lark 37'
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake
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Originally Posted by Jacky
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Her first owner took her from Maine to the Bahamas, every season, for 20 years.
Her second owner had a trailer built for her (as narrow as she is, she's towable without permits), and hauled her to Minnesota, and he sailed her on the lakes until a couple of years ago.
My plan is to get her back in shape, and then get her back to the Bahamas and Florida keys, and after that I have only vague intentions.
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24-01-2022, 15:44
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#314
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake
Nice!
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Originally Posted by Jdege
Her first owner took her from Maine to the Bahamas, every season, for 20 years.
Her second owner had a trailer built for her (as narrow as she is, she's towable without permits), and hauled her to Minnesota, and he sailed her on the lakes until a couple of years ago.
My plan is to get her back in shape, and then get her back to the Bahamas and Florida keys, and after that I have only vague intentions.
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24-01-2022, 21:14
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#315
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Aransas Pass, TX
Boat: Pearson 35
Posts: 8
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake
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Originally Posted by Jacky
Wow, I've just seen this post. Found all the answers.
My favorites: a new Southerly 42 or an old Meadowlark 27.
What do you folks think about the new production monohulls with shallow drafts or swing keels and such? A Cat 355 with wing keel or a Beneteau 34.1 with shallow keel or an IP349 with her full keel or a Sun Odyssey 349 with swing keel is the answer these days? So many choices out there, overwhelming to even think about all the options.
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How about a Pearson 35. 3ft 9in draft with CB up?
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