Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

[Steadman Uhlich]

Originally Posted by Don C L

Hi Steady, 2 different boats here, Peterson and Pearson in same post. Not sure if that is clear. I don't think Peterson ever designed a centerboarder.....

Good EYE!

You found a glitch in my posting in post #145 above. I mistakenly posted the link from one boat into another boats post.

I did find a PETERSON and a PEARSON. Two different boats. I had multiple tabs open on my iPad browser and must have picked the wrong URL. Sorry forks! (Another typo! ).

Here is the link to the PETERSON 34 1978 $12,500
Peterson 34 Sailboat '78

Here is the link to the PEARSON 35, 1981
$17,999
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/...846657904.html

Sorry folks! I cannot go back and edit to correct those posts. Keep a sharp eye.

[CareKnot]

Perhaps if you ask a moderator, they might find it in their hearts to make an edit for you...

Originally Posted by Steady Hand

Good EYE!

You found a glitch in my posting in post #145 above. I mistakenly posted the link from one boat into another boats post.

I did find a PETERSON and a PEARSON. Two different boats. I had multiple tabs open on my iPad browser and must have picked the wrong URL. Sorry forks! (Another typo! ).

Here is the link to the PETERSON 34 1978 $12,500
Peterson 34 Sailboat '78

Here is the link to the PEARSON 35, 1981
$17,999
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/...846657904.html

Sorry folks! I cannot go back and edit to correct those posts. Keep a sharp eye.

[Steadman Uhlich]

C&C Landfall 38

Steady NOTES:
1. This boat was designed as cruising boat and has an unusual layout. I am posting this as an example of the model along with specs and a recent (October 28 2016) sale listing to ILLUSTRATE a street price and condition. NOT all of the photos are of the boat in the sale listing.

2. Note this boat like other C&C boats has a balsa cored hull.

3. Note this boat has a V Drive.
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Notes from Others about this design and layout:

"Interior arrangements are very much a matter of personal preference and intended use, but for my taste the arrangement of the Landfall 38 is just about perfect for a coastal cruiser. " - Naval Architect Jack Horner of Boat US

The C&C Landfall series was C&C Yachts pivot from proven and fast racer/cruisers to more long-range friendly family cruisers. People familiar with C&C yachts prize them for their speed and construction, as they are one of the only full cored construction yards to get it "right."

The layout of the Landfall 38, along with its proven sailing ability, make this boat a perfect opportunity for those looking to upgrade or for those looking to find a comfortable cruiser with C&C's intuitive spatial layout.

This boat boasts a full size T cockpit with asymmetrically balance cockpit door that leads into the captian's berth. In this berth you will find an offset double on one side and a single on the other, along with a pilots station and charting table. Further forward one leads into a large U shaped galley on port. This galley boasts a gimballed stove, full stainless sink, and has a very large amount of storage.

John Kretschmer of Sailing Magazine writes of the layout, "At first glance this arrangement seems weird but it really works for cruising, especially for couples. The nav station and off-watch crew are within easy earshot of the helm and more importantly can be in the cockpit quickly in an emergency."

Opposite the galley is the roomy head, and further afront is a split salon perfect for extra crew, as each settee can make a single bed in a pinch. Further ahead are hanging lockers and a nicely appointed V double berth. The overall layout of this boat is very attractive to people that know sailing, and that is exactly what Jack Horner means. There is a lot of open space and yet technically there are two staterooms that can sleep up to 7 passengers with both settees.

Horner also states, "Although the Landfall 38 is a cruising boat, her heritage is that of a racer/cruiser. That heritage is reflected in her handling and performance, and she is easily balanced and driven at all points of sail. The sail area displacement ratio is 15.9 and displacement length ratio is 271, both of which are reasonable for this type of cruiser. The large foretriangle and equally large headsails make a good roller furling system a must."

"Construction of the Landfall 38 is typical of other C&C models with composite hull of fiberglass resin and balsa wood core. C&C has more experience with composite construction than practically any other boat builder, and it is unusual to find any significant structural problems with the hulls of these boats. " - Jack Horner of Boat US
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C&C Landfall 38
1981
Asking Price = $28,000
Location = San Diego

1981 C&C Landfall 38 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Specs, Equipment and Information:
Specs
Builder: C&C Yachts
Designer: Robert Ball
Keel: Fin

Dimensions
LOA: 37 ft 7 in
Beam: 12 ft 0 in
LWL: 30 ft 2 in
Maximum Draft: 5 ft 0 in
Displacement: 16700 lbs

Engines
Total Power: 30 HP

Engine 1:
Engine Brand: Yanmar
Year Built: 1980
Engine Model: 3QM30
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Propeller: 3 blade propeller
Drive Type: Direct Drive
Engine Power: 30 HP

Cruising Speed: 6 knots @ 2200 RPM
Maximum Speed: 7 knots

Tanks
Fresh Water Tanks: 3 (33 Gallons)
Fuel Tanks: 1 (30 Gallons)
Holding Tanks: 1 (30 Gallons)
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[Steadman Uhlich]

Seidelman 37

1987
Asking Price = $20,900 ("motivated seller, must sell ASAP")
DRAFT = 4.5 feet
Location = Ft. Pierce Florida

http://www.sailboatlistings.com/photographs/51899
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Steady NOTES:
I am posting this boat because it appears to be in good condition, with several recent updates (engine rebuilt, low hours, newer sails, newer gear). And because the sale listing indicates the seller is very motivated to sell and has reduced the price and must sell ASAP.

NOTE: I use listings like this to ILLUSTRATE the types of boats available at this price level. I also post photos of this model of boat to ILLUSTRATE features of this model of boat. Not all of the photos in this post are from the sale listing boat. I have NO connection to the boat or seller.
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From the sale listing above:

New furler and jib- less than one month old, brand new with new rigging and new sheets.
Self tailing wenches
Extra new spinnaker sail and main sail included.
New Garmin GPS and depth finder.
Full head with push button flush and shower with hot water heater.
100 gal fresh water tank
20 gal diesel fuel tank.

Yanmar 3 cylinder engine- rebuilt less than 2 years ago with less than 30 hrs- runs great.

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[Steadman Uhlich]

Herreshoff Cat Ketch 38
1985
Draft 4' 6"
Free Standing Masts

Asking Price =$49,500
Location = Virginia
http://www.sailboatlistings.com/photographs/60583

Not much info on the sale listing. Says price recently reduced.

[Steadman Uhlich]

Originally Posted by Scout 30

Bruce Kirby is a great designer & his line of Norwalk Island Sharpies belongs in this thread.
Norwalk Island Sharpie Sail Boats by Bruce Kirby Marine | Sailboat and Yacht Designer of Laser, Sonar, Ideal 18, San Juan 24, Canada 1 and others
nisboats : Norwalk Islands Sharpies : plans kits building sailing rigging & lots of boat stuff : Bruce Kirby Designs & Straydog Boatworks
2003 Sharpie Norwalk Island by Bruce Kirby Sail Boat For Sale -
Scott's Boat Pages: Norwalk Islands Sharpie 23 for Sale
Used 26 Norwalk Island Sharpie for Sale | Yachts For Sale | Yachthub

THanks for adding more boats to the mix. I will take some time to read the links and post something in the near future. But, feel free to post something before then if you want (photos, data, etc.).

[Steadman Uhlich]

Liberty Pied Piper 28

Steady's NOTES:
This is a charming small cruiser, with a full keel and cutaway forefoot. I happen to like traditional styling, so I appreciate what the builder has done with the interior layout and furniture, etc. Noteworthy are: the nice interior finish in wood (this may be custom), the multiple opening bronze ports with screens, the head, shallow draft (4'), and styling. From what I can see, it appears to be a nicely designed small cruiser, and one I find appealing.

NOTE: The photos and sale link and specs I post are here to ILLUSTRATE this type of boat and features. The photos may be from a mix of boats. The specs may not match the linked boats. CAVEAT EMPTOR!

Recent Sale Listings
1987 Liberty Pied Piper Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
1987
Location = Cape Coral Florida
Asking Price = $19,000

1984 Liberty Yachts Pied Piper Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
1984
Location = Oriental NC
Asking Price = $14,500
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http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=6140
"Fin keel version-draft: 4'/1.22m
There were 2 different builders called Liberty Yachts in the southern US. The builder of this yacht was located in North Carolina??. Not to be confused with the another company, founded by Joe Fennel which was located in Florida.
Earlier wood versions were built by a number of different yards. "
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Additional Specs, Equipment and Information:

Specs
Builder: Liberty Yachts< North Carolina
Designer: Sy Hamlin
Flag of Registry: United States
Keel: Full Keel/Centerboard
Hull Shape: Displacement

Dimensions
Beam: 8 ft 9 in
Length on Deck: 28 ft 0 in
Minimum Draft = 3.25'
Maximum Draft: 6.25' K/CB or 4 ft 0 in (fin model)
Displacement: 8400 lbs

Engines
Total Power: 18 HP

Engine 1:
Engine Brand: Volva Penta
Year Built: 1987
Engine Model: 2002
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Engine Hours: 1400
Propeller: 3 blade propeller
Drive Type: Direct Drive
Engine Power: 18 HP

Tanks
Fresh Water Tanks: 35
Fuel Tanks: 22
Holding Tanks: 20

Accommodations
Number of double berths: 1
Number of cabins: 1
Number of heads: 1
Seating Capacity: 4

[Steadman Uhlich]

Bristol 40

The Bristol 40 was designed by Ted Hood.
Motion Comfort Rating = 36.57
Draft = 5' 4"
Mast Height = 46 feet

NOTE: Some of the Bristol 40 boats were sloops (or cutters), some yawls. Some have centerboards.
There were 149 of the 40s built between 1970 - 1997. Sail area for the yawl is 709 square feet, which is essentially the same as the cutter rig (710 sq ft).
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Photos in this Post
The photos I post here are to ILLUSTRATE the features and design of a boat. The photos are from a mix of sources and not all of the photos may be from any sale listing links I post. You should look carefully at each boat. I am posting a mix of photos to ILLUSTRATE what one might see in this model of boat so CF members can learn something about the boat design, features, and condition.
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SPECIAL NOTICE

Bristol 40 Yawl, 1970
Asking Price = $17,500
Draft = 5' 4"
Mast Height = 46 feet

Location = St Johns USVI Yacht Harbor Marina

Steady's NOTES
I saw this listing posted yesterday, and because it looks like a nice boat that may fit the needs of some CF member, and because the price and gear and condition and location may fit some members, I am posting it here. I have NO connection to the boat or seller. I am posting this to ILLUSTRATE what is on the market for a type of boat and asking price and condition.

Note: this boat has a newer Hard Dodger. I happen to like the dodger and would want one similar in design, but this is not typical for this boat design. It is an added feature. If any CF member recognizes this as a kit or aftermarket product, please let me know for future reference.

Note: There are two lists of equipment found on this boat. The lists are shown as handwritten lists in a photo. I will attach them. The owner stated the engine has just 470 hours on it (Westerbeke W46).

NOTE! The photos of this particular boat are posted in a separate post in a different thread on CF. Look for post #265 in this thread
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...147098-18.html

Special Sale Listing
I don't have a link for this boat (SVERIGE), but here is the info that was posted on Facebook in a sailing group in which I am a member. Remember, I have NO connection to this boat or seller. Caveat Emptor!
Owner - Stephen Kemp
Phone - (732) 261-5436
Location E Dock Slip 33 St Johns Yacht Harbor Marina USVI
Reason for selling ($17,500) is "death in family forces fast sale"

I will post the photos I have of this boat in a following post. See this thread and post #265 for those photos: http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...147098-18.html
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Recent Asking Prices

I did a quick survey of asking prices for Bristol 40 boats built in 1970 - 77. Here are some prices I found:
1970 = $75,000
1973 = $37,000
1974 = $49,000
1977 = $39,000

As with any boat, the condition of a particular boat is most important. Buyer should always remember "Caveat Emptor!"

Comparison Yachtworld Sale Listing
1970 Bristol 40 Yawl Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
Asking Price = $75,000
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BRISTOL 40 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com

Boat Model (1970) Additional Specs, Equipment and Information

Specs
Keel: Full

Dimensions
LOA: 40 ft 2 in
Beam: 10 ft 9 in
LWL: 27 ft 6 in
Maximum Draft: 5 ft 4 in
Displacement: 17580 lbs
Ballast: 6500 lbs

Engines
Total Power: 40 HP
Engine Brand: Westerbeke
Engine Model: W46
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Engine Hours: 470

[Don C L]

Originally Posted by Steady Hand

Bristol 40

The Bristol 40 was designed by Ted Hood.
Motion Comfort Rating = 36.57
Draft = 5' 4"
Mast Height = 46 feet

NOTE: Some of the Bristol 40 boats were sloops (or cutters), some yawls. Some have centerboards.
There were 149 of the 40s built between 1970 - 1997. Sail area for the yawl is 709 square feet, which is essentially the same as the cutter rig (710 sq ft).
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Photos in this Post
The photos I post here are to ILLUSTRATE the features and design of a boat. The photos are from a mix of sources and not all of the photos may be from any sale listing links I post. You should look carefully at each boat. I am posting a mix of photos to ILLUSTRATE what one might see in this model of boat so CF members can learn something about the boat design, features, and condition.
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SPECIAL NOTICE

Bristol 40 Yawl, 1970
Asking Price = $17,500
Draft = 5' 4"
Mast Height = 46 feet

Location = St Johns USVI Yacht Harbor Marina

Steady's NOTES
I saw this listing posted yesterday, and because it looks like a nice boat that may fit the needs of some CF member, and because the price and gear and condition and location may fit some members, I am posting it here. I have NO connection to the boat or seller. I am posting this to ILLUSTRATE what is on the market for a type of boat and asking price and condition.

Note: this boat has a newer Hard Dodger. I happen to like the dodger and would want one similar in design, but this is not typical for this boat design. It is an added feature. If any CF member recognizes this as a kit or aftermarket product, please let me know for future reference.

Note: There are two lists of equipment found on this boat. The lists are shown as handwritten lists in a photo. I will attach them. The owner stated the engine has just 470 hours on it (Westerbeke W46).

NOTE! The photos of this particular boat are posted in a separate post in a different thread on CF. Look for post #265 in this thread
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...147098-18.html

Special Sale Listing
I don't have a link for this boat (SVERIGE), but here is the info that was posted on Facebook in a sailing group in which I am a member. Remember, I have NO connection to this boat or seller. Caveat Emptor!
Owner - Stephen Kemp
Phone - (732) 261-5436
Location E Dock Slip 33 St Johns Yacht Harbor Marina USVI
Reason for selling ($17,500) is "death in family forces fast sale"

I will post the photos I have of this boat in a following post. See this thread and post #265 for those photos: http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...147098-18.html
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Recent Asking Prices

I did a quick survey of asking prices for Bristol 40 boats built in 1970 - 77. Here are some prices I found:
1970 = $75,000
1973 = $37,000
1974 = $49,000
1977 = $39,000

As with any boat, the condition of a particular boat is most important. Buyer should always remember "Caveat Emptor!"

Comparison Yachtworld Sale Listing
1970 Bristol 40 Yawl Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
Asking Price = $75,000
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BRISTOL 40 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com

Boat Model (1970) Additional Specs, Equipment and Information

Specs
Keel: Full

Dimensions
LOA: 40 ft 2 in
Beam: 10 ft 9 in
LWL: 27 ft 6 in
Maximum Draft: 5 ft 4 in
Displacement: 17580 lbs
Ballast: 6500 lbs

Engines
Total Power: 40 HP
Engine Brand: Westerbeke
Engine Model: W46
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Engine Hours: 470

Cheez whiz.. buy a great boat for a great price that's already there... ok, now who was it that wanted to move down there?

[19Valiant79]

Yes, great boat - really low price. Even with the airfare, but watch out for the things to look for that cost us about $20K (w/o labor) to refit our Hood designed Tartan Classic 37 (with current survey):
deck core
standing rigging and lifelines and all fittings (lost one headstay in the Eggemoggin on our C&C of same vintage - learned fast!)
engine
electrical
shaft seals etc

The decks are the main issue with older boats. We've done 2 and if you aren't a builder who can use a skill saw and lay up glass, you will not want to ask the yard prices
She's a beauty though and probably sails like our ALIDA Rocknak*s Yacht Sales

[Steadman Uhlich]

CORRECTION:
Earlier I posted a long post with photos about SVERIGE a Bristol 40 for sale. That boat is in CHARLESTON SC and NOT in St. Johns USVI.

The original sale post on Facebook only said "St. Johns" so I asked the owner of the boat to clarify. Here is his response today:
"Charleston South Carolina, St John's Yacht Harbor Marina E dock, slip E 33"

Unfortunately I am unable to go back to my original post on that boat to correct the location.

[beiland]

Another advantage of Shallow Draft,...you can go explore scenes like these, up close

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i90BTvQgTKE

[Steadman Uhlich]

Beach Cat Sailing can be a lot of fun. I enjoyed the video.

[brownoarsman]

Originally Posted by Steady Hand

CORRECTION:
Earlier I posted a long post with photos about SVERIGE a Bristol 40 for sale. That boat is in CHARLESTON SC and NOT in St. Johns USVI.

With a fellow on the multihull equivalent thread just having bought a low priced but out of sorts edel cat that appeared there, I can't believe this location information hasn't spurred a CFer to put money down on a well kept 40' Bristol!

Sent from my Nexus 5X using Cruisers Sailing Forum mobile app

[CareKnot]

I enjoyed it too! Reminded me of my Dart racing days. Great fun!