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29-11-2010, 11:52
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#106
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Boat: Beneteau FIRST 42
Posts: 1,836
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Originally Posted by sneuman
Beneteau can build boats almost like Ford can build cars. That doesn't mean Beneteaus or Fords aren't well built.
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A very true remark....little has to be researched when buying a ford or chevy,new or used, you know they've been building for many years and will continue for years to come and they deliver a fair product at a good price..
Beneteau and Hunter are the same, as are the Catalinas..
If you read an add for a 1996 chevy truck, 2500 series with a long bed, you already know what you're buying..
Same as a 1986 Catalina 27 with an atomic 4...... You know what to expect befor you even see it, and you know the capable areas it will be of use
It dosent make them good or bad, just another boat..
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03-12-2010, 09:00
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#107
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: mumbai
Boat: Fisher-25 motorsailer
Posts: 271
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03-12-2010, 09:35
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#108
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Naples, FL
Boat: Leopard Catamaran
Posts: 2,572
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I'll have to sound off on the "modern" production boats. Some are probably good boats that will take you anywhere, but some of the production shortcuts aren't good. I recently talked to an experienced sailer that was on a Hunter, ... due to chainplates anchored to deck instead of hull a strong wind seperated the two leaving a smile shaped hole on the side of the boat. Another Hunter due to hull flexing seperated, again at the deck only this time completely around the boat leaving a big enough gap to risk sinking if the deck was awash. These are the type of failures I wouldn't want to have 1000 miles from shore. Not that I wouldn't buy one for coastal cruising, but I would think twice before crossing an ocean in one. A more solid built boat would make me feel safer.
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03-12-2010, 09:47
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#109
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Chesapeake Bay
Boat: Sabre 28-2
Posts: 3,197
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Quote:
Originally Posted by storyinframes
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Nice video.
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03-12-2010, 17:23
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#110
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Nearly an old salt
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Lefkas Marina ,Greece
Boat: Bavaria 36
Posts: 22,801
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Methinks its more a lack of self confidence in ones abilities that's transferred (conveniently) to boat design and strength
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Hear hear , the sail by the numbers crowd.
Also in my opinion having sailed one a lot and owned the other, A hunter is a poor production boat with in my view Jeanneau at the top and Beneteau not far behind.
Ogh and my benteau had quite sufficient handholds, the worst boat that threw me around was a 20 year HR.
DAve
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03-12-2010, 18:17
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#111
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: San Francisco, CA
Boat: 1980 Pearson 323 - 34ft LOA
Posts: 641
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How about a Pearson 323, they can be had for 30k and under. I bought mine with blue water in mind and by many standards that I researched its a capable boat.
austin
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03-12-2010, 20:42
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#112
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: On Board, just above the water
Boat: Camano Troll 31'
Posts: 1,201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by storyinframes
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Great video, almost made me sea sick! But it had the feel of the ocean!
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03-12-2010, 23:11
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#113
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: mumbai
Boat: Fisher-25 motorsailer
Posts: 271
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video
by the way can anyone get a hint which boat is that in the video?
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03-12-2010, 23:32
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#114
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: mumbai
Boat: Fisher-25 motorsailer
Posts: 271
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03-12-2010, 23:57
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#115
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Eternal Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Port Ludlow, WA (NW corner of Puget Sound)
Boat: 30' William Atkin cutter
Posts: 1,496
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Quote:
Originally Posted by storyinframes
hi there everyone
this is my first post on this site. I am eager to learn from experienced members/boat-owners that which ocean going monohull boats can be obtained in a moderate budget of 37k-50k USD. length 31-36ft. looks are not an issue :-) i am interested in boat having good seakeeping qualities. after having searched many sites, i find only Catalinas fitting my budget.
Nauticats, Halberg Rossy are pretty expensive. so please advise.
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My boat is a William Atkin's design ocean cruising boat. 30' loa/25'lwl/8'8beam/5' draft ....sea kindly and fun to sail. After adding a number of technological upgrades, cosmetic improvements and cruising refit my total price was around $25K
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04-12-2010, 00:07
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#116
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: mumbai
Boat: Fisher-25 motorsailer
Posts: 271
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfenzee
My boat is a William Atkin's design ocean cruising boat. 30' loa/25'lwl/8'8beam/5' draft ....sea kindly and fun to sail. After adding a number of technological upgrades, cosmetic improvements and cruising refit my total price was around $25K
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unbelievable! do post some pictures of your boat please.
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04-12-2010, 01:14
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#117
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Eternal Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Port Ludlow, WA (NW corner of Puget Sound)
Boat: 30' William Atkin cutter
Posts: 1,496
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don't have much in the way of photos scanned but do have some line drawings. The photos I do have were before the refit alot less bronze and no brightwork (it is amazing the difference a couple of gallons of varnish makes).
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04-12-2010, 02:15
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#118
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: mumbai
Boat: Fisher-25 motorsailer
Posts: 271
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wow the boat looks good. bright and shiny. AND you have a husky too :-)
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04-12-2010, 09:17
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#119
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Eternal Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Port Ludlow, WA (NW corner of Puget Sound)
Boat: 30' William Atkin cutter
Posts: 1,496
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Actually she was a malamute who was happier spending the last part of her life on a 120 acre horse farm, The paint covered up red fir rub rails, chocolate brown teak cap rails, Honduras mahogany companionway hatch, red fir boom, Sitka spruce mast....
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