Commercializing the Arctic

[highseas]

Most Canadians seem to think a 5 to 6 degree temp. rise is a good thing..

[hpeer]

Originally Posted by highseas

Most Canadians seem to think a 5 to 6 degree temp. rise is a good thing..

NOT where I sail. It's frigging up the wood gathering, makes the skeedo dangerous to get around.

But that's NL and NE Quebec. You lefties are an odd bunch.

[MarkJ]

Environmentalists cant have it both ways: no nuclear energy or development of nuclear fuel plus no use of fossil fuel.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by highseas

Most Canadians seem to think a 5 to 6 degree temp. rise is a good thing..

Really? Are they that naive?

Governments from around the world have agreed that the two-degree threshold is a dangerous tipping point for the atmosphere. If temperatures rose by that much, climate change would threaten to disrupt ecosystems and accelerate ongoing rising of sea levels and melting of ice in the Arctic; and would increase the likelihood of extreme weather events, such as longer and more frequent heat waves as well as heavier rainfall in some areas and droughts in other locations.

http://o.canada.com/technology/envir...rming-by-2050/

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by MarkJ

Environmentalists cant have it both ways: no nuclear energy or development of nuclear fuel plus no use of fossil fuel.

Mark

James Hansen, the godfather of the greenies, is in favour of fast reactor nuclear power. Here is a letter he co-authored with 3 others.

Top climate change scientists issue open letter to policy influencers - CNN.com

[Jimmy Jazz]

Originally Posted by highseas

Most Canadians seem to think a 5 to 6 degree temp. rise is a good thing..

QUOTE Really? Are they that naive? Jackdale.. I believe this was meant as a joke, haha funny you know, sense of humor. Its frikken cold the last few weeks. Humor warms the soul.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Jazz

QUOTE Really? Are they that naive? Jackdale.. I believe this was meant as a joke, haha funny you know, sense of humor. Its frikken cold the last few weeks. Humor warms the soul.

Calgary went from near records highs 2 weeks ago to -20C when I walked the dog this morning.

[captain58sailin]

It went up to 60 F in Homer recently, something that has not happened in my lifetime. I recognize that the human life span is infinitesimally short with regards to geological time, 2 years ago we had a record snow fall. Something is up. I live on the hill so if the water gets high enough, I'll have beach front property.

[bgallinger]

Originally Posted by highseas

Most Canadians seem to think a 5 to 6 degree temp. rise is a good thing..

Never mind a measly 5 or 6 degree bump. This canuk wants it hot so I'll move and not winter in this country again.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by bgallinger

Never mind a measly 5 or 6 degree bump. This canuk wants it hot so I'll move and not winter in this country again.

I "lived" in Houston for a year. They treat summer the way we treat winter. Start the car and let it cool down.

My in-laws have a place in Yuma. I would not even think about going there in the summer.

I did start sailing there.

As we say in Calgary, you can dress for the cold. And it is a dry cold.

[hpeer]

Originally Posted by captain58sailin

It went up to 60 F in Homer recently, something that has not happened in my lifetime. I recognize that the human life span is infinitesimally short with regards to geological time, 2 years ago we had a record snow fall. Something is up. I live on the hill so if the water gets high enough, I'll have beach front property.

Here is a good place to start at seeing "Whats up."

The North and South hemisphere 500mB circulations should be roughly similar. A big circulation around the globe. Note how the NH has all this current flowing over the top. Brrrrr here. Balmy in the Arctic.

Note the differences. That is because, in the NH the temperature gradient has fallen sufficiently to start disrupting the circulation we are used to. It may or may not re-stabilize to something more "normal."

SH 500mB map
earth wind map

NH 500mb map
earth wind map

It's calming down a bit now, was worse a couple of days ago.

[rognvald]

To despoil the Arctic wilderness would be patently criminal. However, as the world has exceeded 7 billion people, continues to rapidly grow and no one wants oil drilling nor nuclear power, what will be the source of the world's energy? Our real problem is overpopulation and it is this that is the world's greatest challenge for civilized survival in the future. Unless we address the problem of population growth, all life as we know it will be lost. Good luck and good sailing.

[captain58sailin]

I think we beat that horse to death in the "Save the Planet" Thread.

[tightgroup]

Originally Posted by rognvald

To despoil the Arctic wilderness would be patently criminal. However, as the world has exceeded 7 billion people, continues to rapidly grow and no one wants oil drilling nor nuclear power, what will be the source of the world's energy? Our real problem is overpopulation and it is this that is the world's greatest challenge for civilized survival in the future. Unless we address the problem of population growth, all life as we know it will be lost. Good luck and good sailing.

Well 2 countries make up for almost half of the world's population.

[shorebird]

Before we all get excited about environmental concerns and transiting the passage, we have to figure out where Canada's Northern border is, 'cause we don't got one.