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Old 03-07-2012, 09:51   #1
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The Worst Jobs

Hello there, I was just wondering what jobs on board a ship an unskilled hand could do aboard a sailing ship with minimal help or supervision. I imagine they could scrub the deck and do the dishes, but what else could they do? And of the jobs an unskilled hand could do, what would you consider to be the worst, the most distasteful, of the lot?
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:01   #2
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Rebuild the head and pull and flush all lines to holding tank.
Here is link on how it is done.
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If this is a commercial vessel, most countries have have minimum crewing standards like STCW. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STCW)

Can you be a little more specific? Size?
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Here is another I like about half way down for complete instructions.
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Old 03-07-2012, 11:14   #5
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You can sand my teak coamings in exchange for a sailboat ride!
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Old 03-07-2012, 11:41   #6
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or you culd have one of these jobs:

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Old 03-07-2012, 12:22   #7
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SCK 5 you a lot braver then me !! I would never let a NEW hand near my teak !! LOL they could ruin it in a quick flash !!! LOL just messin
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Refilling the elbow grease gun.
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Old 03-07-2012, 16:28   #9
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If this is a commercial vessel, most countries have have minimum crewing standards like STCW. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STCW)

Can you be a little more specific? Size?
I'm not talking about a huge ship. Maybe a forty foot sloop.
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I'm not talking about a huge ship. Maybe a forty foot sloop.
I skipper a 52 ft sports racing boat with 12 passengers on a overnight trip. I have one trained crew/host that can be male or female they assist with hosting the guests,cooking meals,hosting sails,cleaning and re-making the bedding.
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Rebuild the head and pull and flush all lines to holding tank. Here is link on how it is done.
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Interesting link - story. Except they had never bring the boat back into the USA. Removing factory installed holding tanks violates many State and Federal laws - unless - you also remove the marine MSD's. In Florida and other places you can get the boat confiscated by overzealous LEO's.

Of course if you never bring the boat back into the USA or are extremely good at avoiding the potty police inspections then no problemo. Also you will not be able to sell the boat in the USA if the surveyor notices the absence of the holding tanks - until the tanks are put back into the boat.
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They put a smaller tank in the place of the Large one. And you can remove factory tanks all you want so long as there is something to comply with the law in place.
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As I said, if you have a permanently installed MSD (e.g., factory installed) you, by law have to have a holding tank in USA waters. See: The West Advisor: Heads Holding Tanks and http://www.lrn.usace.army.mil/CleanMarinas/pdf/msd.pdf

and lots of other references. The CF threads about installing composting toilets are pretty much directed at removing the potential hassles of potty police, etc.

That holding tank capacity can be one pint to many gallons, but needs to be there along with the other required valves, etc.

Add in the USA situation with "No-discharge Zones" and you can see that anything less than a reasonably sized tank will quickly become full and then you are "S... Out of Luck" being able to use your on board MSD facilities.

Then add in that in more and more places the LEO's are dropping dye tablets into your MSD system so you cannot "cheat" and pump overboard when nobody is watching - supposedly.

Add in the average intelligence level of the "potty police" and you can anticipate a high level of hassles if the holding tanks do not exist anymore.

You will be severely restricting your cruising areas if you remove your holding tanks to 3rd World countries without "eco-conscious" zealots.

Again, no problemo if you cruise away from 1st World places - but over the years I have watched cruisers "modify" their systems and then when it comes time to sell the boat they end up paying significant money putting all that stuff back into the boat and getting it working again.

Is it really worth it? Just to gain a few cubic feet of extra storage space. . .
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Old 04-07-2012, 08:14   #14
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I am ok with letting a new hand near my teak so long as I am sitting there supervising with a cool refreshing beverage in my hand.

As for rebuilding the head, I have way more incentive than a transient crew to avoid letting a single molecule get in the bilge. Teak is relatively easy. Back and forth. With the grain. Over. And. Over. And. Over.
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I also crew on a tall ship and often have volunteers with little experience or physical abilities. Serving as a bow watch is often a good chore and it helps them feel as though they are part of the crew.
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