Inboard engines and a changing world

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Chotu

Oh, ok. Thanks.

I was hoping it was a bigger setup for space heating when I read your post before.

It kept me from freezing in the dead of winter on my islander 24 but I wouldn't recommend it . Not really safe to do .
For that your best option would be to try to find one or 2 of the gasoline space heaters that Volkswagen made for the beetle
https://www.ebay.com/itm/18470775330...RoCuqIQAvD_BwE
Like that

[skenn_ie]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Not changeable on these maranized bunk heaters

https://www.esparparts.com/

I run a Chinese knockoff of this

I have seen too many Chinese devices that couldn't possibly meet our CE safety standards, even though they claim that they do. Some even say "Made in Germany", but they have a place CALLED Germany, in China, so they aren't actually lying, just deliberately misleading.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by skenn_ie

I have seen too many Chinese devices that couldn't possibly meet our CE safety standards, even though they claim that they do. Some even say "Made in Germany", but they have a place CALLED Germany, in China, so they aren't actually lying, just deliberately misleading.

Just like USA Japan
These heaters are made in the same factory as the big name ones but for 200 usd vs 1800 I can afford a spare unit just in case .
Ran them all the time in my semis never a problem

[belizesailor]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Actually more like 70 years but here in port Angeles Washington they still have hitching rings in front of the courthouse and people still use them . But i do agree with you .

My biggest issue is that my diesel furnace won't run on bio diesel It requires actual diesel or kerosene. ( i have tried it )

May need pre-heating. A friend runs his 4WD off waste cooking oil and has pre-heat circuit.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by belizesailor

May need pre-heating. A friend runs his 4WD off waste cooking oil and has pre-heat circuit.

No my furnace not an engine it soots up to fast on bio diesel

[belizesailor]

Originally Posted by newhaul

No my furnace not an engine it soots up to fast on bio diesel

Ah, so if burns, just dirty.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by belizesailor

Ah, so if burns, just dirty.

Yes and no . After about 4 or 5 hours it's sorted up enough to shut down so no it won't run on bio diesel . Now my westerbeke mitsubishi k2b it will run on just about anything oily short of #3 bunker oil

[skenn_ie]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Just like USA Japan
These heaters are made in the same factory as the big name ones but for 200 usd vs 1800 I can afford a spare unit just in case .
Ran them all the time in my semis never a problem

Brand owners who want to keep their reputation, keep their own people in the Chinese factories, to make sure that standards are maintained, If they look away, standards fall.
Afford to keep a 2nd in reserve ? Assuming you don't die in the fire.
Also, electronics, particularly electrolytic capacitors, degrade over time, even if completely unused or not even soldered into a board.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by skenn_ie

Brand owners who want to keep their reputation, keep their own people in the Chinese factories, to make sure that standards are maintained, If they look away, standards fall.
Afford to keep a 2nd in reserve ? Assuming you don't die in the fire.
Also, electronics, particularly electrolytic capacitors, degrade over time, even if completely unused or not even soldered into a board.

Get over it . I have a spare for parts . As I said I have used these exact heaters for many years in my companies trucks to keep my drivers comfortable . ( retired now and back to my shipwright roots . )
Now back to the theme of this thread .

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/are-diesel-trucks-illegal/

Interesting read however completely dependant on political leaning going forward .

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by Chotu

I still say it’s coming a LOT faster than you think, and that’s bad news for recreational motoring.

Surely that depends on how fast they want to go. Electric run around for water skiing ought to be possible. Miami Vice 50ft cigarette boat, oh dear. Small yacht, either electric outboard or even propane powered, when not sailing.

https://www.mercurymarine.com/en-gb/...roke/25-25-hp/

My money is on the tax system being used to persuade people to change. After all governments don't actually have to do anything new, they just tweak the tax rate as Sean suggested earlier. They don't even have to collect it, the distributers do all the work for them.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by skenn_ie

In the USA in particular, I suspect that subsidies to the petrochermical industry exceeds the taxes raised.
One BIG problem with the push for electrification is that the vast proportion of PV cells and panels are produced in China by forced labour and dirty (coal) energy.

Unlike the internal combustion cars which of course are made in utterly green factories by well paid smiling staff !!!!!!!

[Chotu]

I’m not wrong. LOL.

Not to toot my own horn, but spotting trends before they are big is an ability I have.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRWbY_Tt...dium=copy_link

[skenn_ie]

Originally Posted by seandepagnier

Would love to see it. You certainly should be punished for consuming fossil fuels for heating. So many other ways to deal with this problem without causing emissions.

I propose a $10 tax per gallon as a starting point increasing by $1 per year. The tax generated would divide evenly by the citizens twice a year like a stimulus payment, so average consumption would actually have no tax which is less fuel tax than we have now. only people with above average consumption would pay more than they do now as they surely should.

That should apply to ALL taxes !

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Chotu

I’m not wrong. LOL.

Not to toot my own horn, but spotting trends before they are big is an ability I have.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRWbY_Tt...dium=copy_link

As stated above this to entirely depends on political lean of the government going forward .

[JimJohnston]

Pursuant to the general nature of the discussion, the boat captured in this video (https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1770652) is home built. I met the owner briefly and he told me that he uses 2 (I think) modified Tesla batteries for storage. On a bright sunny day during optimal conditions he said his break-even speed is about 5.2 kts in. When I met him he was just beginning a 250 NM non-stop journey in Georgian Bay and Lake Huron. I guess he made it.