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crabcake · 10-10-2016, 10:16

Start your own Navy and buy one of these

mako · 10-10-2016, 10:20

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Originally Posted by crabcake

Start your own Navy and buy one of these

At first it sounds like a great idea... 175hp outboard diesel. But reading further it is a converter gas engine. If anyone remembers, that didn't work out too well for VW back in the days of the 60mpg Rabbit. My buddy's blew head gaskets as a hobby!

**a64pilot** · 10-10-2016, 10:43

The Mercury outboard motor and the Lycoming Diesel drone engine are not Diesel engines.
They are spark ignition engines using Diesel fuel. Not really important for us maybe, but they aren't Diesels as they don't use high compression ratios to ignite the fuel.

Sure would be nice to have an outboard for the dinghy that burned Diesel, just a safer fuel in my opinion.

crabcake · 10-10-2016, 10:53

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Originally Posted by a64pilot

Sure would be nice to have an outboard for the dinghy that burned Diesel, just a safer fuel in my opinion.

No question about it and long overdue IMO. If you have a diesel powered boat, why should you have to haul gasoline (explosive) for your dinghy??

Cheechako · 10-10-2016, 11:19

If you are importing a new engine then I think it must comply. If you are visiting, no one is going to look. There may be loopholes for importing replacement parts though. Import a "powerhead" and import a "lower unit".
Frankly though, I thought diesel outboards went away/never gained popularity in the US because they were heavy and trouble some, not due to the more recent controls. Small inboard diesel engines from out of country are still imported and do not have electronic controls.

zeehag · 10-10-2016, 11:53

to my best memory you cannot BUY NEW one in kali but grandfather says.......

i have never been nor has anyone i have reentered usa with, any questions about engines. customs is homeless insecurity and they seek illegal people and armaments and drugs. you should be plenty ok. do yourself a favor , while being inspected they will ask if you want the sticker.
just say yes
it is a frequent flier one so re entries are easier. forgot their name. works.

mitiempo · 10-10-2016, 12:37

This one is fully compliant but would only work on a larger dinghy.

OXE - DIESEL OUTBOARD

nicholastanguma · 10-10-2016, 13:49

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Originally Posted by zeehag

to my best memory you cannot BUY NEW one in kali but grandfather says.......

i have never been nor has anyone i have reentered usa with, any questions about engines. customs is homeless insecurity and they seek illegal people and armaments and drugs. you should be plenty ok. do yourself a favor , while being inspected they will ask if you want the sticker.
just say yes
it is a frequent flier one so re entries are easier. forgot their name. works.

CaptTom · 10-10-2016, 14:21

These might also need a bigger dinghy:

valhalla360 · 11-10-2016, 02:42

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Originally Posted by Cheechako

If you are importing a new engine then I think it must comply. If you are visiting, no one is going to look. There may be loopholes for importing replacement parts though. Import a "powerhead" and import a "lower unit".
Frankly though, I thought diesel outboards went away/never gained popularity in the US because they were heavy and trouble some, not due to the more recent controls. Small inboard diesel engines from out of country are still imported and do not have electronic controls.

I've talked to a couple of guys who have them. For the right application, they are great.

The problem is not many boats have the right application.
- Dingy: too heavy and cumbersome.
- Runabout: too heavy and not enough power to get on plane.
- Single engine trawler: inboard diesels make more sense.
- Big powerboat: inboard diesels make more sense
- Cruising monohull and most catamarans: inboard diesels make more sense.

It's really only large cruising sailboats that are designed from the ground up for outboard power where it makes sense and these are a small percentage of boats. With the advancements in 4stroke outboard technology, there wasn't much to gain with diesel and they would be oddball if you ever needed work on them...there just wasn't a market for someone to take the time and effort make them compliant.

I suspect the idea of buying one overseas and shipping it back in parts won't work or if it does it will wind up being so expensive that it doesn't make sense. Plus it won't be like new as it's been torn down and rebuilt. Any warranty long gone. And in the end, on the off chance the authorities find it, they will still confiscate it. Again a whole lot simpler to buy a legitimate used model and do a full rebuilt...probably cheaper too.

nicholastanguma · 11-10-2016, 03:03

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Originally Posted by valhalla360

I suspect the idea of buying one overseas and shipping it back in parts won't work or if it does it will wind up being so expensive that it doesn't make sense. Plus it won't be like new as it's been torn down and rebuilt. Any warranty long gone. And in the end, on the off chance the authorities find it, they will still confiscate it. Again a whole lot simpler to buy a legitimate used model and do a full rebuilt...probably cheaper too.

My research the past couple of days has made me start to suspect this very thing. And I was daring to be so hopeful when I first posted this thread...

ranger58sb · 11-10-2016, 05:08

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Originally Posted by nicholastanguma

The boat is a harryproa. Simply too small, and with no inboard-friendly hull shapes anyway--both hulls tapered to sharp edges fore and aft.

Is there any huge overwhelming reason to not just change boats?

Not a recommendation, just a contrarian idea: a different approach to solving a propulsion problem...

-Chris