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Old 20-11-2018, 14:53   #1
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Greece Update

As the man says "Time to Panic":

Greek Cruising Tax update from the CA - Page 14
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Old 20-11-2018, 17:37   #2
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Re: Greece Update

west africa is starting to look like a good new cruising ground, now if only we can teach the natives to make souvlaki

new greek depka charges as of 26 nov 2018 for all vessels in greek waters

Length Meters - Monthly Charge € 6 months 12 months less discount * discount Annual charge
7 to 8 meters 16 96 192 10% 19 173
8 to 10 25 150 300 10% 30 270
10 to 12 33 198 396 10% 40 356
12.01 meters 96 576 1153 10% 115 1038
13 meters 104 624 1248 10% 125 1123
14 meters 112 672 1344 10% 134 1210
15 meters 120 720 1440 10% 144 1296

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I think is only for motor boats , I am gonna get more info soon since my boat is registered in Greece

If it's for sailboats too , I am glad my boat is outside Greek waters
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I think is only for motor boats , I am gonna get more info soon since my boat is registered in Greece

If it's for sailboats too , I am glad my boat is outside Greek waters
surely ALL pleasure vessels need a depka in greek waters regardless of propulsion

here is the new regulation in greek,with parts in english(,the bit where they issue the skipper with a fine for non payment)

https://www.aade.gr/sites/default/fi...0_2018_fek.pdf
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Old 20-11-2018, 17:49   #5
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surely ALL pleasure vessels need a depka in greek waters regardless of propulsion
It's funny how you mention west Africa above and is where I am cruising now hehe .

Yes they require dekpa but you get discounts on sailboats , I don't know with foreign flags but mine on lembologio gets about 80 % 50 for being sailboat and 30 for the age , same for the taxes.
P.S in Greeks is mentioned as pleasure tax (I cant find the exact translation ) and this tax doesn't apply on sailboats , so it might not.
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It's funny how you mention west Africa above and is where I am cruising now hehe .

Yes they require dekpa but you get discounts on sailboats , I don't know with foreign flags but mine on lembologio gets about 80 % 50 for being sailboat and 30 for the age , same for the taxes.
P.S in Greeks is mentioned as pleasure tax (I cant find the exact translation ) and this tax doesn't apply on sailboats , so it might not.
see the attached link ,i think you saw my post as i was editing it to add the link

perhaps you would be kind enough to read the greek text and comment

https://www.aade.gr/sites/default/fi...0_2018_fek.pdf
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I did read it , it states all the vessels sailing in Greek waters , during the time in the water, you can get excluded if.the boat is on the hard .
Yes they state the user or the owner is reliable for paying the fees , so the skipper can be charged .
I will get more information tommorow from the port police .
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I did read it , it states all the vessels sailing in Greek waters , during the time in the water, you can get excluded if.the boat is on the hard .
Yes they state the user or the owner is reliable for paying the fees , so the skipper can be charged .
I will get more information tommorow from the port police .
many thanks! that would be great

i joined your facebook group yesterday,looking forward to some updates from west africa as well ,good luck
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As the man says "Time to Panic":

Greek Cruising Tax update from the CA - Page 14
Chris Robb who wrote this article is the CA member who has been trying to negotiate with the Greek Ministries in respect to this tax. He is in constant contact with the Shipping Ministry. See post number 131 below:

Greek Cruising Tax update from the CA - Page 14
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Re: Greece Update

Another benefit of L 400 : it is 11.97m

i am not going to greece anytime soon
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i am not going to greece anytime soon
Don't see what the problem is. Mass exodus of large yachts to Turkey leaves lots of room for little yachts.

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Chris Robb who wrote this article is the CA member who has been trying to negotiate with the Greek Ministries in respect to this tax. He is in constant contact with the Shipping Ministry. See post number 131 below:

Greek Cruising Tax update from the CA - Page 14
Post 146 since added.

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I have had a long phone call this morning with the head of Indirect Taxation Implementation, and have been told its a complete cockup. There will be a ministerial announcement later to day initially dealing with the deadline - which is the most important point at this stage. Once we have this we can then carry on to knock off our other point. This department was unaware of the tax being extended to All non Greek flagged pleasure boats until yesterday!
So the word is now Don't do anything and await more information.
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Another benefit of L 400 : it is 11.97m

i am not going to greece anytime soon
they will probably make you pay twice,since you have 2 hulls and 2 engines
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I think Chris deserves an MBE for his work dealing with the Greek Taxation departments, must be like wading through treacle.
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Another benefit of L 400 : it is 11.97m

i am not going to greece anytime soon
I m in Greece, and I have a semi-catamaran Twice your fee for same size of boat, except mine is twice your length and half your beam. Will leave the country if this comes into effect.
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