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Old 18-01-2022, 08:07   #3766
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Re: Canadian COVID-19 News

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Agreed. Ignore the latest mis/disinformation purveyor.
I will as well, but with a parting shot.

His VAERS death numbers are skewed:

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...FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.*Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem...
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html

Why he's quoting USA numbers in a Canadian thread, I don't know, but 21,745 died (from many causes) in the USA after being vaccinated, while 874,347 have died in the USA of Covid-19.

Stark difference there...
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"absolute rot" shows an attitude of bias and contempt that destroys credibility of your posting. If the "vaccines" are so effective, then why is a third shot required within only months of the first two? This shows that that they are a dismal failure.



Effectiveness of traditional vaccines typically lasts for many years. Truth is that the mRNA injections do not even meet the true definition of the word, "vaccine". The definition was changed to accommodate the fraud. You can dissect the statistics however you want, but the fact is that large numbers of injected people have been diagnosed with COVID. The overall survival rate of those diagnosed with COVID is better than 99%. This indicates that the restrictions, lock downs, and injection campaign are needless and costly over reactions.


If one considers that omicron was first identified in southern Africa and spread world wide, the entire "vaccine" strategy crumbles. Omicron obviously spread worldwide by international travel. But only vaccinated people are allowed to travel. So the bug has been hitching rides around the world on vaccinated people. In effect, this is really a pandemic of the vaccinated.


It is amazing how fear spread by media that feeds on sensationalism has caused a mass loss of rationality. Statistics in the discussion have not even included the many adverse reactions and deaths resultant from the injections. Indeed, Taiwan has recently been reporting more deaths due to injections than due to COVID itself.


The CDC VAERS data as of Jan. 7 shows 1,894,633 adverse reactions including:
21,745 DEATHS
115,754 HOSPITALIZATIONS
112,235 URGENT CARE
161,439 DOCTOR OFFICE VISITS
8,811 ANAPHYLAXIS
12,951 BELL'S PALSY
3,594 Miscarriages
11,055 Heart Attacks
25,773 Myocarditis/Pericarditis
37,937 Permanently Disabled
5,176 Thrombocytopenia/Low Platelet
24,791 Life Threatening
37,466 Severe Allergic Reaction
11,758 Shingles



Any "rot" in the situation exists in the COVID industrial complex and the irrational minds that believe it.
Hmmm. 22,000 deaths due to the vaccine vs. 850,000 due to Covid. I guess you're right: the vaccine is more dangerous than the disease. (In case you don't recognize it, I'm being sarcastic).
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Re: Canadian COVID-19 News

Absolute rot IS absolute rot. Nothing biased about it when the data clearly show it.

Oh, and the efficacy of vaccinations is still being shown during Omicron.

But understanding that requires actually considering the data.

Some just don't seem able to do this.


Go ahead, ignore the (overwhelming) data.
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Wow. Over 250 pages for this thread. It's gotta be some kind of record!
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Wow. Over 250 pages for this thread. It's gotta be some kind of record!

it's not. I think the record still goes to the climate bunfights.


But there's nothing like innumerate trolls and COVID deniers to help a thread keep going
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it's not. I think the record still goes to the climate bunfights.


But there's nothing like innumerate trolls and COVID deniers to help a thread keep going
Ah ha. I've not been on that one. It sounds like great fun too!
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Like Mac wisely says, there's plenty of things to talk about and share without getting dragged back down into this never-ending misinformation quagmire.
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I will as well, but with a parting shot.

His VAERS death numbers are skewed:



https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html

Why he's quoting USA numbers in a Canadian thread, I don't know, but 21,745 died (from many causes) in the USA after being vaccinated, while 874,347 have died in the USA of Covid-19.

Stark difference there...



A moot point on US figures. The same injections are used in both countries. The Canadian adverse reaction tracking system is even more poorly managed than the US. Reporting is not mandatory, so actual numbers are likely far worse. 874,347 COVID deaths in the US is wrong due to the 97% false positives of PCR testing. Do the math. 874 347 X .03 = 26 233 would be a closer approximation. 21,745 deaths shortly following injection are good indication of iatrogenic deaths due to the injection. What can be said in favor of injection that causes close to the same numbers of deaths that the disease itself has caused?
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wrong due to the 97% false positives of PCR testing.
Could you explain this better, it doesn't make sense to me.....

Are you saying that of 100 people tested without covid, 97 of them will still test positive?

I find that pretty incredible and hard to believe......
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Time to ignore posts and posters who spread MIS-information and provide zero science/data to backup to their strange claims.

Meanwhile, we can continue to post/provide DATA. Here are BC's most recent data (cases & hospitalizations, rates/100000):

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Hmm interesting study...

https://nationalpost.com/health/livi...ccine-hesitant
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Absolute rot IS absolute rot. Nothing biased about it when the data clearly show it.

Oh, and the efficacy of vaccinations is still being shown during Omicron.

But understanding that requires actually considering the data.

Some just don't seem able to do this.


Go ahead, ignore the (overwhelming) data.
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Those numbers are obviously fabricated for a marketing campaign to make efficacy appear as impressive.


"Vaccine efficacy is generally reported as a relative risk reduction (RRR). It uses the relative risk (RR)—ie, the ratio of attack rates with and without a vaccine—which is expressed as 1–RR. Ranking by reported efficacy gives relative risk reductions of 95% for the Pfizer–BioNTech, 94% for the Moderna–NIH, 91% for the Gamaleya, 67% for the J&J, and 67% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford vaccines. However, RRR should be seen against the background risk of being infected and becoming ill with COVID-19, which varies between populations and over time. Although the RRR considers only participants who could benefit from the vaccine, the absolute risk reduction (ARR), which is the difference between attack rates with and without a vaccine, considers the whole population. ARRs tend to be ignored because they give a much less impressive effect size than RRRs: 1·3% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford, 1·2% for the Moderna–NIH, 1·2% for the J&J, 0·93% for the Gamaleya, and 0·84% for the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccines."

Lancet Microbe. 2021 Jul; 2(7): e279–e280.
Published online 2021 Apr 20. doi: 10.1016/S2666-5247(21)00069-0



That "impressive" efficacy curve is obviously based upon relative risk reduction. Absolute risk reduction figures are somewhere around 1%, quite underwhelming performance.


If one relies on such purveyors of fake news as CNN and CBC, one misses out on important details. Granted, the Lancet did publish a fake report that vilified HCL, but they did have the integrity to later retract it.







"But, for researchers who were testing Pfizer’s vaccine at several sites in Texas during that autumn, speed may have come at the cost of data integrity and patient safety. A regional director who was employed at the research organisation Ventavia Research Group has told The BMJ that the company falsified data, unblinded patients, employed inadequately trained vaccinators, and was slow to follow up on adverse events reported in Pfizer’s pivotal phase III trial. Staff who conducted quality control checks were overwhelmed by the volume of problems they were finding. After repeatedly notifying Ventavia of these problems, the regional director, Brook Jackson, emailed a complaint to the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Ventavia fired her later the same day. Jackson has provided The BMJ with dozens of internal company documents, photos, audio recordings, and emails."


BMJ 2021; 375 doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.n2635 (Published 02 November 2021) Cite this as: BMJ 2021;375:n2635



Not likely that such stories will appear on the likes of CNN and CBC. They have had more than a year for this one.



It is very sad that the health of millions of people has been compromised by such flawed and fraudulent research. Those in the system who try to work with integrity are either silenced with their job threatened, are forced to resign, or are fired; leaving a system rife with error and negligence.
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Sticking with REAL data....

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Could you explain this better, it doesn't make sense to me.....

Are you saying that of 100 people tested without covid, 97 of them will still test positive?

I find that pretty incredible and hard to believe......
I'm betting the DDude won't respond to that.
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