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Old 24-05-2020, 15:30   #1
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Another 40 containers!

I have this via a ham radio communication this morning.

In the large seas off the East Coast of Australia, another container ship has lost another 40 containers, ironically after the final cleanup from the first 40 containers was completed. They were lost somewhere between Seal Rocks and Sydney, three days ago. Subsequently, they are under the influence of the EAC, and the seas.

So, keep your eyes open, and report any you see, and your coordinates.

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PS. The reported back story is that the ship "lost power", and wound up beam to the 10 m. seas from last weekend's cutoff low, and lost them. I'm wondering if he just was not under command...

Here's a link: https://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...5b08ea63cf3dc5
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Old 24-05-2020, 16:12   #2
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Re: Another 40 containers!

Having lost power from my tiny diesel, I have learned the root causes and minimized the chance of repeating the experience. I would be interested in learning how a container ship power goes down, expecting that they would be far better ahead of the game than me.
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Old 24-05-2020, 16:20   #3
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Re: Another 40 containers!

If I hear anything reliable about that, I'll report back. We always want to think the reporters got it right, but I thought it took *a while* to start up big ships' engines, and that is part of why I thought it might have been NUC. It is a location where many ships often are just drifting. Does not entirely conform to international agreements, but there you go. They would not have been allowed to anchor out, with those surf conditions. The Newcastle Harbourmaster would have had that restriction out on the VHF, for days.



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Having lost power from my tiny diesel, I have learned the root causes and minimized the chance of repeating the experience. I would be interested in learning how a container ship power goes down, expecting that they would be far better ahead of the game than me.
We'll find out in the coast guard report, I'm an avid reader of them
Probably something to do with the sea state by the sounds of it, I've read similar cases.
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Re: Another 40 containers!

It will be th Australian Transport Services Board who will make the final report, but the article does not mention the ship by name, so it is hard right now to find out anything official.

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Re: Another 40 containers!

Sure they do (maybe updated since first published?), it's the APL England.



The article says headed to Melbourne but their current AIS destination is coded as Brisbane. Change of plans due to weather maybe?

https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels...MMSI-563722000
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It will be th Australian Transport Services Board who will make the final report, but the article does not mention the ship by name, so it is hard right now to find out anything official.

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Re: Another 40 containers!

The Vessels name is APL England

https://www.amsa.gov.au/safety-navig...ation-database

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FM JRCC AUSTRALIA 241014Z MAY 20
AUSCOAST WARNING 194/20
CHART AUS 489 AUSTRALIAN EAST COAST - NEW SOUTH WALES - JERVIS BAY TO SUGARLOAF POINT
DUE TO 40 SHIPPING CONTAINERS LOST OVERBOARD IN APPROX POSITION 34-11.5S 151-55.1E AT 232010UTC MAY 20, OBSTRUCTIONS ON THE SEABED, AND SUBMERGED AND SEMI SUBMERGED CONTAINERS ARE LIKELY TO EXIST IN AN AREA BOUNDED BY THE FOLLOWING COORDINATES:
NORTH EAST LIMIT OF 32-15S 154-00E TO THE COASTLINE.
SOUTH EAST LIMIT OF 34-40S 152-25E TO THE COASTLINE.
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Sure they do (maybe updated since first published?), it's the APL England.

The article says headed to Melbourne but their current AIS destination is coded as Brisbane. Change of plans due to weather maybe?

Looks like it:

"The Singapore-flagged container ship APL England experienced a temporary loss of propulsion during heavy seas about 73km southeast of Sydney"
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"The ship was en route from China to Melbourne."
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"As of just after 4.30pm on Sunday, the APL England was located to the north of Sydney, and continuing north to lessen the impact of heavy weather."
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Re: Another 40 containers!

Having misread the title, here I was all shocked there was a 40’ container on the loose.

40 containers?? Wow!
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Steel boat owners in Oz are feeling better about all the rust they have to clean right now
Still scary though.
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Re: Another 40 containers!

Yes, I read that part. As a cruising sailor that just sounds like keeping my bow pointed into the waves until the weather abates, then I return to my intended course. I guess the big boys can't afford the time for those kind of shenanigans.

On a completely other note, seems like England would be the very last name choice for an APL ship. I guess times have changed.
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Re: Another 40 containers!

Headed for Brisbane STILL?? Or was that just hove to, I'd have thought they'd go into Sydney if they had to reload the container stacks..... Although, the seas should be milder above 30 S. (going towards the equator) Brissie's at 25.

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Right now, stilll heading north at over 12 knots. Currently off Byron Bay. ETA Brisbane 21:00.
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Re: Another 40 containers!

It seems logical to me that every container should have some kind of transmitter on it that activates when submerged. Then recovery would be much simpler and the oceans much safer. It would also help the shipping companies recover the goods inside.
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