Double Mast Demasting @Sea

[danstanford]

Is this the boat Sailing Mereweather ended up with? Same model of boat with busted masts strapped to the deck.

[jmc42]

I thought it was odd they didn't discuss or speculate on the cause of the mast failure. My guess is that they had running rigging that looked fine on inspection but failed. Replacing running rigging, chain plates, etc. is a hassle and expensive. Crevice corrosion is real. I feel bad for them. I have enjoyed their channel over the years and hope they can overcome it.

[Capt Clark]

“My guess is that they had running rigging that looked fine on inspection but failed.“

You mean standing rigging.

[jmc42]

Yup. Thanks.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by rslifkin

Not necessarily. Some ketches have a triatic stay between the mastheads, some are independent. All depends on the design of the rigging.

On a ketch, the triatic stay [if fitted] runs between the main mast, and the head of the mizzen mast, and is used to stop the upper section of the mizzen mast being pulled backwards.

Not all ketches have triatic stays.
The same job can be done by forward mizzen shrouds, but the triatic stay removes the need for forward stays.
As wholybee & pcmm note, a mizzen is NOT a ‘back-up’ mast.

[pcmm]

Originally Posted by TeddyDiver

You're right. Not seen one with triatic stay so far..

The triatic stay connecting the main to the mizzen mast is very common (you'll see one on a ketch more often than not), often it goes unnoticed by those not familiar with ketch rigs.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by pcmm

The triatic stay connecting the main to the mizzen mast is very common (you'll see one on a ketch more often than not), often it goes unnoticed by those not familiar with ketch rigs.

Indeed.
Deck not cluttered/obstructed with forward mizzen shrouds ... look up to triatic.

[MicHughV]

My first boat was a ketch. It too had the triatic stay, but after a short period of time, I removed it, wishing to eliminate the possibility of the main mast bringing down the mizzen.
I always had it in my mind.....in the eventuality that the main came down, I could relocate the mizzen, which was light enough to manhandle. I never had to test this theory though.
The main mast was quite heavy, requiring several people to lift, but the mizzen was a lightweight.

[TeddyDiver]

Originally Posted by pcmm

The triatic stay connecting the main to the mizzen mast is very common (you'll see one on a ketch more often than not), often it goes unnoticed by those not familiar with ketch rigs.

Not a single one I have sailed anyways. Can you name some common ketch models having triatic stay. Googled pictures and found one Nauticat model having it.

[rslifkin]

Originally Posted by TeddyDiver

Not a single one I have sailed anyways. Can you name some common ketch models having triatic stay. Googled pictures and found one Nauticat model having it.

Of the ketches that have been at our home marina recently, the boats and rigging style is as follows:

Reliance 44: has a triatic stay
Vagabond 42: no triatic stay
Cal 3-46: no triatic stay

[AA3JY]

Originally Posted by TeddyDiver

Not a single one I have sailed anyways. Can you name some common ketch models having triatic stay. Googled pictures and found one Nauticat model having it.

An Amel 55
https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/amel-55/

.. which is the version in this video

[pcmm]

Originally Posted by TeddyDiver

Not a single one I have sailed anyways. Can you name some common ketch models having triatic stay. Googled pictures and found one Nauticat model having it.

Without looking it up I can tell you these all have triatic stays

Morgan out island
Whitby 42
Bayfield 40
Amel
Maple leaf 43

[HankOnthewater]

Originally Posted by AA3JY

An Amel 55
https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/amel-55/

.. which is the version in this video

Yes, the boat is an Amel, but not a '55' model, it is an super maramu.

[pcmm]

Originally Posted by pcmm

Without looking it up I can tell you these all have triatic stays

Morgan out island
Whitby 42
Bayfield 40
Amel
Maple leaf 43

Add to that:

Oyster 435
Shannon 43
Hughes 40
Hudson Force 50
Pearson 365
Mason 53
Gulfstar 47
Tayana 55
Morgan 462

[TeddyDiver]

Originally Posted by pcmm

Add to that:

Oyster 435
Shannon 43
Hughes 40
Hudson Force 50
Pearson 365
Mason 53
Gulfstar 47
Tayana 55
Morgan 462

No wonder not seen much here, most are US boats, or mostly for the US markets.