The Dangers of Lipo Batteries

[Adelie]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

One thing I got from the OP is that he is definitely not an expert.

What I can't understand is why someone who doesn't know much on the topic would:
A: Post anything on the topic that isn't asking questions and not telling.
B: Not educate themselves first before posting.
C: Search for numerous similar topics before posting.

A. They are repeating what they have read which has given them a starting opinion but realize they may not have whole story. That's the way I read the post.
B. They did educate themselves some before starting the thread but wanted to know more. So they started this thread. Or did you miss all their quoted info from that research elsewhere?
C. This is a discussion forum, not a search function forum.

Newsflash everybody, if you don't know the questions to ask, you can't really research effectively. Discussing what you know is a way to figure out what questions to ask.

Be kind to newbies, if you drive enough people away the forum will die off.

[Adelie]

Originally Posted by StuM

He should know more than he does. He's been told before:

https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums...ml#post3202752

https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums...ml#post3202775

Hmm, good catch. It was 3yr ago.

[StuM]

Originally Posted by Adelie

Be kind to newbies

Originally Posted by Adelie

Hmm, good catch. It was 3yr ago.

Actually more like 2½

and he's hardly a "newbie". He's been a CF member for 8 years.

[Ryban]

Well thankfully we have safe gasoline in our cars, which everyone knows, that can't burst into flames.

Whenever you pack a lot of energy into a small space, especially when it needs to be made available easily and efficiently, there's a risk it gets released "quickly". I do not think the batteries used in electric vehicles are any more dangerous than the gasoline we fill our cars with, nor should it be a reason we turn our backs on progress.

For our boats, most of us do not use gasoline, but diesel, because it's inherently safer. Likewise, we use safer LiFePO4 chemistries for our batteries, rather than the lithium cobalt and related technologies used in most EVs today.

[smj]

Originally Posted by Ryban

Well thankfully we have safe gasoline in our cars, which everyone knows, that can't burst into flames.



Whenever you pack a lot of energy into a small space, especially when it needs to be made available easily and efficiently, there's a risk it gets released "quickly". I do not think the batteries used in electric vehicles are any more dangerous than the gasoline we fill our cars with, nor should it be a reason we turn our backs on progress.



For our boats, most of us do not use gasoline, but diesel, because it's inherently safer. Likewise, we use safer LiFePO4 chemistries for our batteries, rather than the lithium cobalt and related technologies used in most EVs today.

Purely a guess, but I imagine there are 10x more boats safely using gasoline than boats using diesel? Like cars, boats can also be designed to safely use gasoline.

[Ryban]

Originally Posted by smj

Purely a guess, but I imagine there are 10x more boats safely using gasoline than boats using diesel? Like cars, boats can also be designed to safely use gasoline.

Probably boats, yes. I should have said "cruising sailboats".

[Chotu]

So many exceptions to rules.

I’m traveling 1000 miles on gasoline right now.

Already have a couple thousand under the daggerboards too.

[Adelie]

Originally Posted by StuM

Actually more like 2½

and he's hardly a "newbie". He's been a CF member for 8 years.

2-1/2yr is still long enough to have forgotten what he wrote then and the responses he got.

Yes 8yr a member. But only 34 posts so maybe he lurks a lot or maybe he only checked in once in a great while and really is kind of a newbie.

My be nice comment wasn’t just about the OP of this thread. Newbies coming and asking very basic questions and getting beat up for it is a regular occurrence here.

[smj]

Originally Posted by Chotu

So many exceptions to rules.

I’m traveling 1000 miles on gasoline right now.

Already have a couple thousand under the daggerboards too.

Probably hard to design a safe inboard gas engine installation on either a monohull or catamaran, but pretty easy to design a safe outboard installation on a catamaran.

[Chotu]

Originally Posted by smj

Probably hard to design a safe inboard gas engine installation on either a monohull or catamaran, but pretty easy to design a safe outboard installation on a catamaran.

Agreed. Safe on a mono? Sure? Useful? Probably not.

[alctel]

Been noticing a fair few people in the last three months in several boating groups I'm a part of, all touting the danger of lithium batteries without discriminating between the different chemistries

[Adelie]

Lot of folks don’t know there is more than one type of lithium.

[Montanan]

Originally Posted by Adelie

Lot of folks don’t know there is more than one type of lithium.

Adelie, my personal favorite type of lithium is lithium carbonate.


This medication is used to treat manic-depressive disorder (bipolar disorder).

May Treat: Bipolar disorder in remission · Mania associated with bipolar disorder · Mixed bipolar I disorder

Great for bipolarity - positive and / or negative polarity.

Be sure to keep your boat and home well stocked for your crazy friends and family.

[Adelie]

Originally Posted by Montanan

Adelie, my personal favorite type of lithium is lithium carbonate.


This medication is used to treat manic-depressive disorder (bipolar disorder).

May Treat: Bipolar disorder in remission · Mania associated with bipolar disorder · Mixed bipolar I disorder

Great for bipolarity - positive and / or negative polarity.

Be sure to keep your boat and home well stocked for your crazy friends and family.

First hand experience?

[LWatson]

Do you think there is any correlation to the recent spate of new car carrying ships and the EVs inside? Thought not