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Old 28-03-2024, 09:52   #16
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Re: Battery Cable Crimping Tool

I use the FTZ tool with FTZ lugs (seems to make a difference) and keep one of the hammer gizmos with our cruising tool kit. I’ve never used the hammer tool so I don’t know how it works. After reading this thread I’ll solder then hammer crimp if I ever needed to use it.
Note that the FTZ tool does a great job but struggles with large crimps. Certainly doable but takes some force.
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Old 28-03-2024, 09:57   #17
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Re: Battery Cable Crimping Tool

An alternative to trying to get a good crimp on large lugs is to solder the connection. This is done by first filling the lug with solder and melting it. Keep adding solder until you get the lug at least 1/2 way filled. While keeping the solder melted, plunge the striiped cable into the lug barrel. The cooler cable will probaly start to solidify the solder part way in. If this happens, reheat the lug while applying pressure on the cable until the solder melts again and the cable is fully seated. Trim off any wire hairs that get flared out. I hold the lug in either a vice or vice grip. I find this creates a more secure and complete connection than crimping.
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Re: Battery Cable Crimping Tool

If you just have a few uses hammercrimper. Cheap easy. Heat shrink tape over the joint the adhesive heavy duty type and you are good. I used a hammer on my first battery installl. For the second I bought the expensive ones. The expensive ones are better for when I was doing a massive amount of crimping but the hammer is good for a few. 😀perfect is the mortal enemy of good enough.
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Old 28-03-2024, 11:29   #19
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Re: Battery Cable Crimping Tool

Couldn't find the FTZ crimper when I was looking a few years back, so I went with the Ancor version: https://www.amazon.com/Ancor-703040-...DKIKX0DER&th=1


Rewired my entire boat with it and it worked well. I suspect the FTZ one is better just because I trust Maine Sail's advice. I would not be comfortable using a hammer crimper for battery cables other than for a temporary fix.
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Old 28-03-2024, 18:34   #20
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If you only need it for a couple crimps, the hammer type are much cheaper.

https://a.co/d/i0TOjcC/
Yes, I looked at that, but unfortunately, I have two 25 ft 4/0 cables already in place and fished through a couple of tight spots and not where I'd have any surface to pound on. I could extract tails one way and then the other, but I think I have access to a crimper now.
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ABYC does permit soldering of battery lugs. Additionally, if you are not satisfied with the crimp, you can always solder too.
Good to know!
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Old 28-03-2024, 18:49   #22
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Re: Battery Cable Crimping Tool

I used this TempCo crimper for 4/0 cables. High quality US manufacturer. 5 year warranty. Beautiful crimps. Hydraulics made it easy.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Also get a good ratchet cable cutter. Cutting 4/0 cable neatly is hard.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...e?ie=UTF8&th=1
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Re: Battery Cable Crimping Tool

Thanks for all the suggestions. I should have stated that my cable is 4/0 so it will require a bigger crimper.

It seems I will have access to a crimper, so won't ned to buy one...yet.
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Re: Battery Cable Crimping Tool

I can recommend the iwiss unit. My only complaint would be is that it’s difficult to use in tight areas as the handles need to open fairly wide. Other than that it worked flawlessly for me on more than a dozen 4/0 crimps.
Also, I don’t know if this has been mentioned, but lugs with flaired ends will make your life MUCH easier.
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... After reading this thread I’ll solder then hammer crimp if I ever needed to use it....

That is "crimp then solder." You always crimp first, and then seal with solder. If you solder first, if the joint warms in use, the solder softens, and the crimp comes loose.


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I always use solder slugs for battery cables. One get a far better connection than a crimp. The slugs include flux and are color coded for the AWG lug size providing the right amount of solder. They are cost effective and easy to install and are ABYC approved. Just google "solder slugs"
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Re: Battery Cable Crimping Tool

Have you considered an Anvil Type of crimper? It's more than sufficient for the occasional need to crimp 0 cables. Be sure to use a heavy, 40oz, hammer and only strike once. Way cheaper and small enough to keep in electrical tool bag.
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I always use solder slugs for battery cables. One get a far better connection than a crimp. The slugs include flux and are color coded for the AWG lug size providing the right amount of solder. They are cost effective and easy to install and are ABYC approved. Just google "solder slugs"
From my understanding it is only ABYC approved if "solder shall not be the sole means of connection at a terminal". Meaning you must also crimp the terminal.

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Re: Battery Cable Crimping Tool

Please read this article: https://marinehowto.com/making-your-own-battery-cables/

Beware of what you find on Amazon. A lot of cheap knockoffs are offered there. Electrical work is not the place to cheap out, it i a safety item. If you can't borrow what you need, see if anyone rents them. (Electrical supply, big box, etc.)
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Re: Battery Cable Crimping Tool

I took another track.....I fitted a copper battery fitting on the wire cable, placed the fitting in a vice, open end up and then heated it up using a mini-propane torch.
When the battery fitting became hot enough, I heated and poured solder into the fitting till it was flush with the top of the fitting.
Then gave it a bit of crimp using vice-grips pliers.
Let it cool down and removed it.
Proved to be strong and reliable connection.
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