Crew Available: Hard time finding opportunities...

[MYTraveler]

Originally Posted by Delancey

I would love to know the backstory behind someone who . . .

judges what a willing buyer should pay or a willing seller should charge, especially when based on the perceived financial capability of either, or both, parties. That kind of arrogance gets no respect from me, but then again I am new around here.

[travellerw]

Originally Posted by Delancey

To be clear, you are defending a guy who posts a picture on his blog of himself on a beach in a hammock with his six figure boat (nit pick all you want about $150,000.00, $170,000.00 or $200,000.00 makes you look nebbish) in the background with the caption "not bad, eh" because you feel he is somehow destitute and deserving of receiving a service for free that most other would expect to pay for?

Hhhmm again difference of opinion..

Did I ever say he was destitute or deserving of a service for free. I simply view it as him providing the service.

I actually read the blog and know the context of the picture as well as the posts to make up the back story.

The fact that you made a big deal about him being on a $200K (which you emphasized the price multiple times) boat and then say a $50k difference is inconsequential says volumes. Maybe you should read your description in your bio again. You certainly are!

If you are going to call names, please use the words properly. At no point in this debate was I fearful or timid.

This will also be my last post on this subject as I would like to get the post back on track.

[Delancey]

Exhibit "A"

[Delancey]

Exhibit "B"

[Delancey]

Seriously, you are going to tell me "can't afford" to pay for airfare and food? That would be a hardship? Didn't notice a picture of a gun held to his head on the blog with an ultimatum. Maybe you non-judgey people can point me to one. Cruising lifestyle is a choice. Own it. Or not! At least be real about it.

[Delancey]

Dear Landlord,

I understand that since you are the landlord of my fourplex duplex who is currently out cruising the high seas, you will understand that I can't pay you rent this month because I really NEED to go on vacation. Hope you don't mind! After all, I really need to go sailing, as do you. I am sure your bank will understand, they must NEED to go sailing too! doesn't everyone?

With love,
Your Tenant

[travellerw]

Please stop.. You are no longer making sense and this is adding zero value to this thread...

[Delancey]

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. I never denied you that, did I?

Yet you deny me mine?

Check out the poll. Have yet to see a single person with the balls to say that they should be paid by crew because they are worth it. Maybe you should respond?

[mrlee]

Hi, maybe we are a good fit...I have a 30' Irwin in Houston being prepared for the trip down to me in mexico. My partner now needs heart surgery so I am kinda stuck...If you are interested in helping me out and at the same time having a good boat to sail, let me know.
I am Willie, email: wil4_wong@hotmail.com or skype: william.bevalet
Hope to hear from ya...

[Greenhand]

Originally Posted by NoQuarter79

We are willing to travel as far as necessary, within our limits, of course.

Are you both politicians? I think most people who are going to spend time in close quarters want clear communication, not this kind of nonsense that completely skirts the question.

[NoQuarter79]

Originally Posted by Greenhand

Are you both politicians? I think most people who are going to spend time in close quarters want clear communication, not this kind of nonsense that completely skirts the question.

Maybe I should have said "within our financial limits." I'm not sure what you're regarding.

[Greenhand]

Originally Posted by NoQuarter79

Maybe I should have said "within our financial limits." I'm not sure what you're regarding.

When you asked for advice about finding opportunities, one piece of advice was to be specific about locations and/or willingness to travel. You responded, "We are willing to travel as far as necessary, within our limits, of course." That doesn't mean anything. No one has any clue what your limits are. The question was posed in the first place to probe what your limits might be, and you just stated that you have limits.

[LakeSuperior]

Last I checked it is illegal in the US to pay to be onboard unless the captain has a USCG captains license and the boat is USCG approved for charter.

Consequently, I think the captain/owner has to be careful how he takes the paying crew money so to speak. Opens up the captain/owner for some trouble if things go wrong.

[mrlee]

How do you think that would be interpreted if you just reimbursed them for travel etc...interesting subject...wouldn't wanna break any laws!

[Time2Go]

Originally Posted by Delancey

I am curious to know more about these occasions when you take on inexperienced crew and charge them.

Are you operating a sailing school and providing instruction? Do you offer some type of certification? When you charge people to go sailing do you allow them to pick the schedule and destination?

The only other situation I can think of why someone would take inexperienced crew on board, unless they were friends, was one in which someone was desperate to move a boat but didn't have enough hands.

Interesting slant here
I can tell you for sure that most crew opportunities here
and on Oceancrewlink require the crew to make a contribution
usually stated in dollars or euros per day, and the crew pays their own airfare. It is my impression that most want the crew to suppliment
the captains lifestyle. How about 6,000 to crew for a transatlantic passage
Charter or Passanger or Crew ??????
Other euphisims are: Voyage Cost, Expenses shared,
50 euros per day is a lot more than food and drink where there
are six aboard and the only expense is food, fuel to run the genset
for any hour or two a day and a bottle or two of cooking gas a week.