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rkupsaw · 31-10-2010, 13:12

Twin 25 KW turbo-charged Mercedes common-rail diesel 240v DC generators; Twin 30 HP 240v DC electric drive motors; Canbus cables, display panels, etc.

The generators have 200 hours on them. All components look new. There is likely an invisibly damaged circuit board or canbus cable/repeater.

System new in 2006 was $105,000. Asking $3,000. Located in Fort Myers Beach, FL.

**skipmac** · 31-10-2010, 16:18

Hi, Interested in the system. Are these two, complete, independent systems or is the damaged component single and common to both?

Will send you a PM.

Skip

Kevthepeg · 31-10-2010, 22:26

Hi I would like to communicate with you regarding your system, please PM.
Cheers
Kevin

**roverhi** · 31-10-2010, 22:46

Why woud anyone in their right mind by one of these systems. Only 200 hours and it's gone tits up to the point that they have ripped them out and are selling them for 3% of their original cost.

Electric propulsion only makes sense to a deranged Eco Freak with really really really deep pockets and inexhaustable patience.

billwa · 01-11-2010, 17:11

BOATING only makes sense to a deranged Freak with really really really deep pockets and inexhaustable patience.

Sail propulsion only makes sense to a deranged Eco Freak with really really really deep pockets and inexhaustable patience.

mbianka · 06-12-2010, 07:02

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Originally Posted by roverhi

Why woud anyone in their right mind by one of these systems. Only 200 hours and it's gone tits up to the point that they have ripped them out and are selling them for 3% of their original cost.

Electric propulsion only makes sense to a deranged Eco Freak with really really really deep pockets and inexhaustable patience.

Roverhi

You trying to make us electric sailors feel bad and just want to see us cry as we silently motor past the fuel dock? I converted three years ago from diesel to electric and never looked back. While some manufacturers or owners are on a costly learning curve and keep forgetting about the KISS system when it comes to electric propulsion. I would never go back to diesel. I'm no dranged eco freak nor do I have deep pockets. But, $5.00 in maintanence costs over three years makes me do the happy dance as does the lack of oil and diesel smell on board. Someone will snap up this system and make it work in their boat. Just as mine has been for the past three trouble free years. Electric propulsion may not be for everyone but, I think it is the best improvement I have ever made to my boat and cruising trips.

bljones · 07-12-2010, 06:01

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Originally Posted by mbianka

You trying to make us electric sailors feel bad and just want to see us cry as we silently motor past the fuel dock?

No, he's probably the guy yelling at you from across the mooring field asking you to stop running your generator endlessly to recharge your batteries.

While you silently motor past the fuel dock, does that mean you sneak the GAS for your generator on board under cover of darkness?

I'm glad the experiment is working out for you, but you haven't found a free lunch. all you have done is changed how you consume your fossil fuels.

Now when your system is self-sustaining, needing no fossil-fueled generator to keep the batteries charged, THEN you can be smug.

BTW, I am not an anti-electric bigot. My dinghy is electrically powered, AND sustainably solar- charged. No fossil fuel input, no noise.

**James S** · 08-12-2010, 06:30

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Originally Posted by bljones

BTW, I am not an anti-electric bigot. My dinghy is electrically powered, AND sustainably solar- charged. No fossil fuel input, no noise.

Very interesting.
I'm thinking that details on that dingy would be an excellent topic for a thread.
Any chance of getting us some pictures and details..i.e.type of dingy, weight, how to you stow it, range, cost...

relmason · 02-02-2011, 07:07

Although my Columbia 10.7 has a relatively low-time Yanmar I am about to convert to an all electric drive with 550 watts of solar panels and a wind generator to supplement, along with a Honda generator as back-up. Diesel has strong points, but it stinks, is messy and environmentally unfriendly, requires persistent maintenance and visiting fuel docks regularly. Electric makes more and more sense to me especially in light on the progress made in designs recently. We all seem to forget that for most of history sailors sailed and managed to traverse all the oceans. I bought a sailboat to escape from the negatives of fossil fuels. All the arguments against electric drive will be null when the s*it hits the fan and oil costs skyrocket. Personally, I look forward to it - there will a lot more room in most mooring fields then, as well as less traffic on the water.

mbianka · 08-12-2010, 07:22

"No, he's probably the guy yelling at you from across the mooring field asking you to stop running your generator endlessly to recharge your batteries."

If he is than he has me confused with another nearby boat that's running their generator "endlessly" to run their air conditioning and power the big screen TV down below. In which case yelling is futile. Believe me I don't run my generator any more than I have to. That would be fuelish!

"While you silently motor past the fuel dock, does that mean you sneak the GAS for your generator on board under cover of darkness? "

Why that would stealing! The marinas would not take to kindly to that kind competition.

No, what I meant was you won't see me waiting around burning fuel while some 65 foot motor yacht is tied up to the fuel dock loading up with hundreds of gallons of fuel. Why? Because I already dingied over with a few 2 1/2 gallon jerry jugs and have no need to tie up for fuel. BTW I used seven gallons last season including some for the outboard. Any left over was put into the car.

"I'm glad the experiment is working out for you, but you haven't found a free lunch. all you have done is changed how you consume your fossil fuels."

I agree no such thing as a free lunch when one owns a boat. But, what I have found is I no longer have to squeeze my 6' 2" frame down below as often as I did when I had a diesel. In fact I can access most of what I need to check from inside the cabin. As I mentioned maintanence costs have also dramatically dropped, reliability is up and the system is clean and quiet. As they say "silence is golden".

"Now when your system is self-sustaining, needing no fossil-fueled generator to keep the batteries charged, THEN you can be smug."

No smugness here. Just a happy sailor who would recommend others take a look at an electric propulsion system WHEN it comes time to repower. I'm glad I did. It might not work for everybody but, it has made my cruises much better. As far as fossil fuel consumption goes that's always a goal of mine to reduce or eliminate it as much as possible. Not because I am a "deranged eco freak" though I do care about the enviornment. I make that a goal because it also means less money flowing out of my pocket. That's why I also have a 48 volt solar panel dodger and a wind turbine too! Plus I get a kick at watching the boat make fuel while under sail too.

"BTW, I am not an anti-electric bigot. My dinghy is electrically powered, AND sustainably solar- charged. No fossil fuel input, no noise."

A route I will probably go once my Honda 2Hp four stroke gives up the ghost. Now how about some info on that outboard you are using? What make and model, and voltage? What size solar panel are you using and what type of dingy are using it on (inflatable, hard)? I am seriously curious for future reference.

Therapy · 01-11-2010, 17:26

Seems everybody is right here.

Greggegner · 03-12-2010, 18:32

Please email me your contact number at greggegner :at: gmail :dot: com

senormechanico · 03-12-2010, 19:31

I am a deranged Freak with no really really really deep pockets and inexhaustable patience,
and I couldn't afford even a basic sailboat if I didn't have my own dock and FREE MOORAGE !
That's why I bought the house. Heck with the house, it's not falling down, and it's got FREE MOORAGE !!

I wish you good luck with the sale of your system.