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Old 12-01-2014, 21:31   #121
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It's plain to see we have some equal opportunity pack animals here. Turning from the $500 boat to ripping into Stanley without missing a beat.

I had been following his progress since he cast off lines and his injuries were a concern. I imagine his condition likely led to the boom damage.

While I am glad he decided to throw in the towel, he still a long way from safe harbor.

I wish Mr. Paris a safe journey.
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Old 12-01-2014, 21:54   #122
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Here's another example of risky point loading. It looks like the entire load from the mainsail clew is being taken by a single sheave. There are other pics with a webbing strop added. Which method was being used when the boom blew up ?

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> It looks like the entire load from the mainsail clew is being taken by a single sheave.

And a single point load below the boom to the 2:1 mainsheet?
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To that long ass thread that had nothing to do with Stanley Paris. WTF?
Have some consideration for the forum.
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To that long ass thread that had nothing to do with Stanley Paris. WTF?
Have some consideration for the forum.
To be fair, there were some more "eco warrior" posts before his so you would have to spread the blame there a bit.

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To be fair, there were some more "eco warrior" posts before his so you would have to spread the blame there a bit.

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I know and I was tempted to add my fart to the warming bit, but resisted. It took so long to scroll past that post I had to give a heads up to the poster. Can't go back and get his name since it takes to long to scroll past it on my phone.
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> It looks like the entire load from the mainsail clew is being taken by a single sheave.

And a single point load below the boom to the 2:1 mainsheet?
Well it looks to me that the mainsheet is attached to the boom with a single U bolt. Even if it isn't, the load is borne by a narrow point rather than spread.

Not good.
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No Govt subsidies on a Prius over here - can buy a new (basic) one from approx £20k (USD30k?) and that is well inside the ballpark for a mid range 4 door saloon.

Toyota taking a long term view on when they get their money back on the technology (Hybrid and Electric - as well as becoming known as a supplier of cars that work which don't rely on gas / petrol....that could be useful when Hydrogen goes mainstream!) - likely looking a couple of decades ahead rather than next quarter as some companies (and cultures? ) tend to do.......it's called "long term investment" .

Of course for fossil fuel based vehicles have to count in the subsidy for the armed forces required to ensure that furriners don't decide that their oil is actually worth $1000.......a pint .

FWIW, over here the Prius works well on fuel consumption as no motorways! - lots of urban (and small country lanes) and that's where electric really wins vs fossil.......as well as being more pleasant to live with in an urban environment.
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It's difficult for me to buy into the idea that the failure is caused by loading on the sheeve. Even on my boat a single sheeve attaches to the clew and while he is sailing in the southern ocean where a lot more stress (both on man and material) will be involved, I assume that a custom built boat would be designed and built to take that into consideration. Not sure if the man was built to take it and in all likely hood the failure was probably due to operator error. (unreefed sail and possiblity an accidential gybe)
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[...] in all likely hood the failure was probably due to operator error. (unreefed sail and possiblity an accidential gybe)
Yes, that banged-up headsail foil looks like something slammed into it. They don't get sharp bends and kinks in them from over-loading. I was wondering if the staysail foil could have hit it when the deck fitting came loose (thus the c-clamp) but I don't think the angles would would have allowed impact at that location.
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Yes, that banged-up headsail foil looks like something slammed into it. They don't get sharp bends and kinks in them from over-loading. I was wondering if the staysail foil could have hit it when the deck fitting came loose (thus the c-clamp) but I don't think the angles would would have allowed impact at that location.
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Does anyone get the feeling that this guy is just a rich, arrogant tree-hugger looking for his 15 minutes of fame. I've read some of his blog posts and his website and he comes off as an incredibly smug Eco-weenie.
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He might be a tree huger but he swam the English Channel when he was 70...you feel up to it??
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He might be a tree huger but he swam the English Channel when he was 70...you feel up to it??
No I am not.

I don't have a problem with the man's physical abilities or skill, I DO have a problem with the smug, self-satisfied tone he takes in his blog posts and his website when he promotes himself and his left wing agenda.
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No I am not.

I don't have a problem with the man's physical abilities or skill, I DO have a problem with the smug, self-satisfied tone he takes in his blog posts and his website when he promotes himself and his left wing agenda.
left wing - lol. The EOTW eco agenda having gone mainstream is classic rightwing, just another "there ain't enough to share - for the peasants " reason to keep folks happy being poor .
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