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Old 19-05-2021, 09:16   #1
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Interesting! Thank you for this post. I’m so glad other people have more knowledge about this situation than I do. I’m learning a lot. So because the beta blockers keep your blood pressure low and your heart rate low, when you start moving quickly, you end up getting dizzy? Because you’re not getting enough blood flow? That’s a relief. I thought it was because my heart wasn’t pushing enough because it was damaged. It’s also great to hear that you are able to do everything that you did before. I definitely have some hope, but I have to plan for all outcomes.

My first hope was that I wouldn’t have any permanent damage from the heart attack. That hope was taken away last week. My second hope now is that through exercise I will be able to get that EF up higher. I’m a health freak. And I definitely don’t give up. Look at this damn boat. Ha ha so, this is my new top priority project for a little while. Seeing if I can get that heart back to somewhat near normal.

That was the situation for me with the Beta Blockers. Interesting how my Dr. at the time, did not tell me anything about the effects. I slowly weened myself off all the meds except the statin. Yes, my heart ws damaged also but new cells do grow and I compensated by exercising a little at first. This was against a Dr.s recommendations who said that i shouldn't tax the heart. For me, he was obviously wrong. After about 4 years and a few treadmills, my numbers slowly came back as did my endurance. I restored a HR 35 and took a few years off to go cruising. Eventually, what was a monumental event in my life faded away and a more normal lifestyle reasserted itself. The one thing that changed was my outlook on life. All of a sudden, work did not have a priority in my life. I had little patience for peoples BS and I spent more time being with thew people I liked rather than chasing money or what I perceived as success.

I will also mention that after both MCI's I experienced depression. It was debilitating. It is caused by an enzyme exhange. It goes away but I wanted you to be aware of it. I definitely did not make any major changes in my life for about a year.
Oddly, during the MCI events, there was other things going on to add to the stress. Right after the 1st "event", I was separated and divorced. 8 years later I had the 2nd event and as I was being wheeled to surgury, I received a phone call in hospital room and was told by a family member that my father just passed away. They say God never gives you more than you can handle. That was not the case for me.

Take some time and reflect a little before delving into anything.
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Old 19-05-2021, 17:01   #2
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That was the situation for me with the Beta Blockers. Interesting how my Dr. at the time, did not tell me anything about the effects. I slowly weened myself off all the meds except the statin. Yes, my heart ws damaged also but new cells do grow and I compensated by exercising a little at first. This was against a Dr.s recommendations who said that i shouldn't tax the heart. For me, he was obviously wrong. After about 4 years and a few treadmills, my numbers slowly came back as did my endurance. I restored a HR 35 and took a few years off to go cruising. Eventually, what was a monumental event in my life faded away and a more normal lifestyle reasserted itself. The one thing that changed was my outlook on life. All of a sudden, work did not have a priority in my life. I had little patience for peoples BS and I spent more time being with thew people I liked rather than chasing money or what I perceived as success.

I will also mention that after both MCI's I experienced depression. It was debilitating. It is caused by an enzyme exhange. It goes away but I wanted you to be aware of it. I definitely did not make any major changes in my life for about a year.
Oddly, during the MCI events, there was other things going on to add to the stress. Right after the 1st "event", I was separated and divorced. 8 years later I had the 2nd event and as I was being wheeled to surgury, I received a phone call in hospital room and was told by a family member that my father just passed away. They say God never gives you more than you can handle. That was not the case for me.

Take some time and reflect a little before delving into anything.

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Old 19-05-2021, 16:35   #3
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Chotu...I have had two MCI.First one in 2000 and second in 2008. So I've been there and yes, some of my heart had died. You mentioned dizziness. It's the beta blockers. It forces the heart to maintain consistency. So if you exert yourself you get tired and dizzy. After #2, I was on 16 meds. The quacks told me all of it was necessary. With the beta blockers, I had 16 out of 18 side effects. Today I am down to two meds. A statin for cholesterol and something for per-diabetes. I started out on 80mg of statin and am down to 20mgs. I have sailed to Mexico. I own a small ranch with horses and work on it 50 hours a week.

You have to want to fight this. In the beginning it's best not to change anything until you know the direction your health is going in. You are in charge of your body and health. No one has the 100% right answer.

I avoid medicines like the plague -they all have side-effects.

When the doctor told me I had a cholesterol problem he asked me to eat oatmeal for breakfast. I started eating muesli and the problem was solved (no need for a witch's potion)

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I avoid medicines like the plague -they all have side-effects.

When the doctor told me I had a cholesterol problem he asked me to eat oatmeal for breakfast. I started eating muesli and the problem was solved (no need for a witch's potion)

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2 Feb 2009 — There are 3 grams of soluble fiber in 1.5 cups of oatmeal -- enough to lower your cholesterol, according to the American Dietetic Association. It ...


Same here. I’ve fixed everything through diet and exercise.

This is different. Part of the blood just sitting around in my heart (because it’s not pumping right) can solidify and cause a stroke, etc.

So, all the blood thinners are currently necessary to keep me alive until the heart can start moving more blood.

Then the statin. Yes, it’s good for keeping cholesterol in check, but I’m already on the Mediterranean diet with no dairy and oatmeal for breakfast, etc.

The statin does one other thing and that’s why I’m on it. It stabilizes plaque on arterial walls. The stent can cause lots of problems from clotting to instability in the plaque surrounding it. The statin makes sure the stent heals into the artery nicely.

I’m assuming I’ll go off these meds one by one as things improve
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