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30-06-2017, 10:35
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Location: Fairhaven Massachusetts
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Re: Replacing a rib with a hard dinghy
A PT-11 from Port Townsend water craft or the non nesting version a PT-11.
Awesome dingy's great to row, sail or if you must, motor.
Guaranteed to be a head turner where ever you go.
PT Eleven Nesting Dinghy home page
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30-06-2017, 11:01
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SW Florida
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Re: Replacing a rib with a hard dinghy
The reason you have a 15 on your inflatable is the inherent inefficiency of the inflatable. Trade off for buoyancy. You won't need that much HP or weight for the same size hard dink to achieve that same performance.
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30-06-2017, 11:02
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Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Matthews NC
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Re: Replacing a rib with a hard dinghy
West Marine has a sale going on a 9 foot 4 inch water Tender. I have had mine for probably 15-16 years although it has been only used extensively for half of that.
I believe it is in the $600-700 dollar range. stable. Check it out.
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30-06-2017, 12:34
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Re: Replacing a rib with a hard dinghy
Thanks guys I have considered the Livingston and may look into that more closely I was also thinking of a 9 or 11 foot Boston Whaler if I can find a used one for a decent price
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30-06-2017, 12:53
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Boat: Tayana 58 DS
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Re: Replacing a rib with a hard dinghy
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Originally Posted by motion30
Thanks guys I have considered the Livingston and may look into that more closely I was also thinking of a 9 or 11 foot Boston Whaler if I can find a used one for a decent price
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Consider the weight of the Whaler. I would've liked a whaler tender 13, but that's a lot of weight to be swinging from the davits or to haul up on a beach. Is weight (of the tender) a factor for you?
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30-06-2017, 13:58
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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Re: Replacing a rib with a hard dinghy
Ye the weight has always been a consideration as I have been using the Weaver davits on my swim platform I believe my last inflatable weights around 165
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30-06-2017, 14:23
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Boat: Tayana 58 DS
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Re: Replacing a rib with a hard dinghy
I believe the dry weight of a Whaler 11 is about 460#. Can you davits handle that?
I find pulling a 200#tender like a 3.8meter RIB or Livingston 12 up a beach (plus motor, gas, etc.) can be a challenge.
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30-06-2017, 14:59
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bellingham
Boat: Outbound 44
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Re: Replacing a rib with a hard dinghy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cotemar
OCTenders OC350
Overall length (m/ft): 3.50 / 11'5"
Overall width (m/ft): 1.60 / 5'03"
Internal length (m/ft): 3.40 / 11'15"
Internal width (m/ft): 1.50 / 4'11"
Hull top side height 0.46 / 1'06"
Overall bow height: 0.60 / 1'11"
Average hull to topside height: 0.54/ 1' 09"
Hull weight (kg/lbs): 54kg / 119lb
Maximum hp: 20 hp
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The OCtenders are pretty cool dinghies. You see a lot of them in the South Pacific, as they are made in New Zealand. They seem best if you have davits, as they are a little bulky for a foredeck.
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30-06-2017, 15:31
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Re: Replacing a rib with a hard dinghy
Does anyone know what a 12 ft Livingston weighs?
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30-06-2017, 15:34
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Re: Replacing a rib with a hard dinghy
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Originally Posted by Paul L
The OCtenders are pretty cool dinghies. You see a lot of them in the South Pacific, as they are made in New Zealand. They seem best if you have davits, as they are a little bulky for a foredeck.
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I googled oc tenders. I guess I have seen them before they do look pretty cool but they are $6,500 New Zealand money
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30-06-2017, 15:46
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Boat: Tayana 58 DS
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Re: Replacing a rib with a hard dinghy
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Originally Posted by motion30
Does anyone know what a 12 ft Livingston weighs?
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About 235#.
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30-06-2017, 15:49
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bellingham
Boat: Outbound 44
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Re: Replacing a rib with a hard dinghy
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Originally Posted by motion30
I googled oc tenders. I guess I have seen them before they do look pretty cool but they are $6,500 New Zealand money
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Which is usd$4,700. Not cheap, but not out of line for a dink that well outlast any RIB.
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30-06-2017, 16:48
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Kemah Tx
Boat: Gulfstar 51
Posts: 699
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Re: Replacing a rib with a hard dinghy
i had an 11 foot whaler-- weight was 400 lbs plus motor and gas etc-- nice boat but not worth the hassles of dealing with the weight. Just swapped it out for a 10 foot gig harbor with a sailing kit. i can get by with a 4 hp motor as opposed to the 15hp i had and best of all i can pick the thing up by myself with no issues- it is not as fast as the whaler was but i am not in that much of a hurry.
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30-06-2017, 16:50
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Northern NSW Australia.
Boat: Adams/Davis 35ft 7in. Custom. 2007
Posts: 586
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Re: Replacing a rib with a hard dinghy
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Originally Posted by Paul L
Which is usd$4,700. Not cheap, but not out of line for a dink that well outlast any RIB.
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There's also Danny Greene Chameleon at 10ft 4 which is a great dinghy. I've had one for years. But you do have to build it. Great boat that sails well and can hold 3 adults in light conditions. It folds to about 5ft 2 when nested. We use a 6hp twostroke which is overpowered but fun. Will cost a lot less than the PT 11 which is a very beautiful boat too.
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30-06-2017, 17:15
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Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Brazil
Boat: Custom Swedish Vindö 50 (35 ft)
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Re: Replacing a rib with a hard dinghy
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Originally Posted by picklesandjesse
There's also Danny Greene Chameleon at 10ft 4 which is a great dinghy. I've had one for years. But you do have to build it. Great boat that sails well and can hold 3 adults in light conditions. It folds to about 5ft 2 when nested. We use a 6hp twostroke which is overpowered but fun. Will cost a lot less than the PT 11 which is a very beautiful boat too.
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+1!! I build one and I absolutely love it. It rows so well you may never need a motor! It can be built as a one-piece dinghy, if that's what you want. I think mine weighs about 80lbs assembled. Each half is easy to lift on deck by hand and it's a breeze to pull up on the beach. I'll never go back to a deflatable!
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