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Old 08-12-2020, 19:03   #661
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Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

Found it. https://www.southernropes.com/ropeinfo

3-3.5% elongation at break for Stealth. Dux website states: elongation is very low or about 3%.

Anyone have any thoughts about using Stealth for standing rigging?
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Found it. https://www.southernropes.com/ropeinfo

3-3.5% elongation at break for Stealth. Dux website states: elongation is very low or about 3%.

Anyone have any thoughts about using Stealth for standing rigging?

The elongation they refer to as 3-3.5% is stretch. That is a common figure for a variety of UHMWPE lines that have been pre-stretched. But Southern Ropes show creep as fair, which is not good enough for standing rigging. The heat-setting process that was developed to turn SK75 into DUX is a different process and is meant to reduce creep to a value similar to that of steel wire.

Find UHMWPE that is heat-set for creep. DUX and DSM20. Not sure of any others.
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Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

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Found it. https://www.southernropes.com/ropeinfo

3-3.5% elongation at break for Stealth. Dux website states: elongation is very low or about 3%.

Anyone have any thoughts about using Stealth for standing rigging?
There are several types of elongation. Creep is what Dfelsent has described (a slow, irreversible increase in length when a constant load is applied over a long period of time). This is different to elastic elongation, which in this case is given as 3.5% at break load.

Looking at the Southern Ropes booklet, they vaguely state that creep has been “virtually eliminated” due to the process of thermofixation that incorporates “stretching under controlled temperatures with a precise continuous applied load”.

They do not, however, list standing rigging under “applications”.

The easiest thing to do is email Southern Ropes and ask about the figures for creep and the suitability of Stealth Super 12 as standing rigging.

The UK contact email address I used was:
claire@southernropes.co.uk

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Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

This is the relevant section in the Southern Ropes Marine Rope Catalogue (a Commercial one was also included) that arrived with the rope I ordered:
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Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

A conversation this morning with Philippa at sales@southernropes.co.uk gives the information that 'creep' in SS12 rigging applications is virtually nil.

She knows her stuff technically and practically, including 2 days hanging on a JSD in the Southern Ocean, and she recommends we/you consider their GP12 product, which undergoes a slightly different process and gives 'longer lifespan' and much less colour fading.
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Re: Stealth mode - New Generation Ropes

I would use any of the heat-set offerings from any non-chinese supplier for standing rigging. But then, I have deadeyes and lanyards with a lot of extra take-up, so anything would have to creep far more than the length of a normal turnbuckle before I bottomed out.
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