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Originally Posted by Polux
I don't understand you. It is that hard to understand that all don't like to sail and cruise the same types of boats you think that are perfect (for you)?
It is that hard to understand that somebody likes more to travel on a Ferrari on a Porsche or on a powerful motorcycle than on a high end Mercedes...even if the Mercedes is more comfortable and practical?
What defines a boat suitable for sailing oceans is the ability the boat has to face those conditions and sail, not the comfort that the sailors that own and sail it have while they are doing it. The parallel between the Ferrari or a high power motorcycle and the Mercedes is a valid one.
There is dificult to find a boat more seaworthy and able to face ocean conditions than a Swan 65, a medium light weight boat designed with that in mind. Saying as you said that the Swan 65 is "not suitable for sailing in ocean conditions" makes no sense at all and you should know it.
Saying that a high respectable naval architect like German Frers, a relatively conservative one, is stating ******** and lying while he describes the characteristics of one of their designs is....well, at least deselegante and as meaningless as stating that a Swan 65 is not suitable for ocean sailing.
What he says about the yacht seems to me a good description of the boat characteristics, one that I could have made if I was reviewing the boat and of course he knows that boat and his characteristics much better than me.
He says that it complements a " bluewater line of yachts... that.. her medium light displacement hull is powerful and beamy giving very good form stability and a nice motion at sea.. that.. she will be a fun boat to own and sail the waters of the world."
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This is actually an interesting conversation.
I don't say that German Frers is writing "bullsh*t". I say he is writing advertising text. It's not lying, it's
selling the dream. I could hardly condemn it -- I do it myself all the time in my own business.
Those
boats are dreams -- they look cool and will -- as you said yourself -- impress the ladies, but probably more relevant, impress the guys in in the yacht club. And make one feel cool as one visualizes one's own rugged look standing behind the
helm on that flat
deck, striking a pose and wearing the correct cool
clothing of course, and probably wearing a Patek Phillippe watch or something like that. No unsightly sailing
hardware in the way to spoil the look. And making the owner feel cool is their primary purpose, because the form, and particularly the
deck arrangement is not suited for sailing in ocean conditions, certainly not over long distances. Can you really not imagine being on that deck at night in the rain in the North Sea in a F7? Believe me, you don't want to be there. Green
water over the bow will have nothing to stop it -- will sweep that cool flat deck from bow to stern, and your tether might save you, but it won't keep you on your feet. You want to be in a proper
cockpit from which you can operate all the controls, protected from
wind and green
water, where you have somewhere to sit, something to brace against, and something to hold on to.
The comparison to a Ferrari is actually apt -- 99.9% of miles done in normal non-racing Ferraris are done cruising between the country club and home. This is not at all the car you would choose to drive from
New York to Tierra del Fuego through deserts and jungles. Ocean sailing is like that. These boats on the contrary are made for day
sails in good
weather. Perfect
Med boats. And again -- I'm not saying anything against them. Certainly, they are beautiful and cool boats, designed for a specific market which uses boats in a specific way, a way which is utterly and totally different from the way I use my boats. I like Ferraris, too. But the "dream" being
sold in the advertising blurb is a bit of a fantasy which is not being described accurately ("sailing the oceans of the world"), but accuracy is not a typical characteristic of that kind of writing.
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