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22-05-2015, 11:59
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Newport Beach, CA.
Boat: TPI Lagoon Catamaran 42'
Posts: 256
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New USCG Documentation fee?
My understanding of documenting a vessel with the USCG is that they may take , in time of war or martial law, possession of your vessel. The benefits of documenting are that your vessel is considered a US govt. vessel in foreign countries and that there is no fee's ( state registration ) required. I just received my renewal documents from what is now named , " Homeland Security/ U.S. Coast Guard"" and there is a renewal fee attached. I tried to call the phone numbers provided and found they are closed on Thursdays? Calling Friday the voicemail proclaims, " The NVDC is currently not accepting calls". Huh? Anyone know what's going on? Why the new charge?
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22-05-2015, 12:02
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ocean Springs, MS
Posts: 279
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Re: NEW USCG Documentation fee?
They instituted a fee late last year.
The good news: there is a motion to change renewal from yearly to five-yearly
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22-05-2015, 12:13
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Elsewhere on the Water
Posts: 579
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Re: NEW USCG Documentation fee?
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Originally Posted by duefocena
The benefits of documenting are that your vessel is considered a US govt. vessel in foreign countries and that there is no fee's ( state registration ) required.
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The rules for states may vary. Washington does collect an annual tax on boats including those that are US Documented, and they assign a state registration number to such boats. Also, there is a licensing fee charged for the annual state sticker. The sticker must be displayed on the boat, but not the state registration number for US Documented boats.
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22-05-2015, 13:56
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2013
Boat: Luger, Southwind, 21
Posts: 428
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Re: NEW USCG Documentation fee?
When short of money to mis-manage "Elected Officials" get creative at extortion by legalese.
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22-05-2015, 14:39
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,773
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Re: NEW USCG Documentation fee?
It never seemed right it was free. Why should non boaters be funding the process.
BTW - if you can not afford this small fee you better rethink boating.
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22-05-2015, 14:56
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Elsewhere on the Water
Posts: 579
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Re: NEW USCG Documentation fee?
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Originally Posted by sailorboy1
It never seemed right it was free. Why should non boaters be funding the process.
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Until reading an earlier post in this thread, I had forgotten that the Government can, and has, placed private vessels in government service in time of war. Maybe the annual registration update has been free because in earlier times it served the need to have a list of vessel types, sizes, where to get them, and who to deal with in the process. At the present the list is likely mostly vessels that are of no military use, and may be a reason to charge the fee.
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22-05-2015, 15:03
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,773
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Re: NEW USCG Documentation fee?
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Originally Posted by St. Elsewhere
Until reading an earlier post in this thread, I had forgotten that the Government can, and has, placed private vessels in government service in time of war.
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Probably only interested in the ones with guns
Otherwise I can just heard the govt say to someone like North Korea "You better straighten out or we are to going to commandeer a bunch of sailboats and sail them right up you ass!"
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22-05-2015, 18:33
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: puget sound washington
Boat: 1968 Islander bahama 24 hull 182, 1963 columbia 29 defender. hull # 60
Posts: 12,760
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Re: NEW USCG Documentation fee?
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Originally Posted by sailorboy1
It never seemed right it was free. Why should non boaters be funding the process.
BTW - if you can not afford this small fee you better rethink boating.
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Hey Don I agree with you wholeheartedly with the fee and the reason that the military commandeers vessels it deems useful for costal security but I could see a bunch of sharpies with double duces on the bow sailing up rivers
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22-05-2015, 19:07
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Central California
Boat: M/V Carquinez Coot
Posts: 3,782
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Re: NEW USCG Documentation fee?
Yes, an annual fee has been recently initiated.
In a time of total war, just think, you could have the opportunity to fuel/operate your boat and perhaps with you being its "captain."
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22-05-2015, 19:13
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2012
Boat: Tayana 58 DS
Posts: 774
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Re: NEW USCG Documentation fee?
I was annoyed to find there was a fee this time. I've paid many whole boats worth of taxes, why do they have to nickel and dime us? Want an FCC station license -- another fee. Want to re-enter US waters? CBP decal and another fee. I agree with the other sentiment expressed above, though -- it'd be worth the fee if we only had to do it every few years.
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22-05-2015, 19:20
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: La Paz, Mexico
Boat: 1978 Hudson Force 50 Ketch
Posts: 3,921
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Re: NEW USCG Documentation fee?
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaybird1111
The good news: there is a motion to change renewal from yearly to five-yearly
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Yep....thanks to the hard work of the Seven Seas Cruising Association....
Just another good reason to Join!
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Cruise RO & Schenker Water Makers
Technautics CoolBlue Refrigeration
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22-05-2015, 19:26
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Central California
Boat: M/V Carquinez Coot
Posts: 3,782
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Re: NEW USCG Documentation fee?
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Originally Posted by accomplice
I was annoyed to find there was a fee this time. I've paid many whole boats worth of taxes, why do they have to nickel and dime us? Want an FCC station license -- another fee. Want to re-enter US waters? CBP decal and another fee. I agree with the other sentiment expressed above, though -- it'd be worth the fee if we only had to do it every few years.
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What? You want free? You're receiving a service provided by bureaucrats processing the paperwork. Not willing to pay? Be thankful the federal government isn't taxing you as much as my county is.
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23-05-2015, 10:01
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Newport Beach, CA.
Boat: TPI Lagoon Catamaran 42'
Posts: 256
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Re: NEW USCG Documentation fee?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailorboy1
It never seemed right it was free. Why should non boaters be funding the process.
BTW - if you can not afford this small fee you better rethink boating.
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I don't think "free" is equal to giving up the right to use of your boat. More of a trade. As far as rethinking boating, "if you cannot afford this small fee", I do believe to question new fee's, taxes, permits etc. is a prudent thing for any boater to do. Here in CA. there is a property tax, registration fee and a "possessory interest tax". The latter is a tax on your use of a slip that you don't own. Based on the value of the property your rented slip occupies.
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23-05-2015, 10:14
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: puget sound washington
Boat: 1968 Islander bahama 24 hull 182, 1963 columbia 29 defender. hull # 60
Posts: 12,760
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Re: NEW USCG Documentation fee?
Here they call it a leasehold tax
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23-05-2015, 12:28
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Anacortes
Boat: previous - Whitby 42 new - Goldenwave 44
Posts: 1,835
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Re: NEW USCG Documentation fee?
I thought there was always a fee for registration but I could be just getting forgetful. Better fees tied to a service then just bumping up the income/sales taxes. The days of "free" service for anything are long gone.
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