Boat registration in the EU - as EU citizen

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by Simon.Sails

This post and the answers from the registration agent was very helpful for me. As a Swiss citizen who bought a boat in the UK this was crucial to understand and very hard to get any real info on.



My trimaran now has a provisional registration, and will be insured by Pantaenius (based in Germany for my case, but global). As I only hold an RYA Day Skipper and could not get an ICC I should be fine anywhere but in Croatia.

Day skipper is fine in Croatia , it’s a higher ticket then icc anyway

[calm waters]

Thanks

It is indeed very hard to find real world info. In fact thinking of avoiding this altogether. My qualifications are IYT with ICC & Radio Operators licence.

Originally Posted by Simon.Sails

As a Swiss citizen who bought a boat in the UK this was crucial to understand and very hard to get any real info on.

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Originally Posted by Simon.Sails

This post and the answers from the registration agent was very helpful for me. As a Swiss citizen who bought a boat in the UK this was crucial to understand and very hard to get any real info on.

My trimaran now has a provisional Polish registration, and will be insured by Pantaenius (based in Germany for my case, but global). As I only hold an RYA Day Skipper and could not get an ICC I should be fine anywhere but in Croatia.

The radio license is also in work, I did the RYA SRC course for that reason.

in croatia RYA day skipper is valid. i dont read in detail ICC is not valid.
here is list license valid in Croatia for sail a Croatian flag boat. but how sail polish flag,us/UK citizen permit Chinese i don't know. For my experience be tricki
https://mmpi.gov.hr/UserDocsImages/d...9%205-7_19.pdf

but also if you pass Gibraltar keep you side to Africa side, Spain need lot equipment

[goboatingnow]

Icc and day skipper are valid in Croatia along with a whole host of other licences

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Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Icc and day skipper are valid in Croatia along with a whole host of other licences

The ICC is formally accepted in the following UNECE countries that have adopted Resolution 14 & 40:

Austria, Belarus, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Switzerland and United Kingdom.




The following UNECE member states have not accepted the Resolution 14 nor the Resolution 40:

Greece, Moldova, Portugal, Spain, Russian Federation, Serbia, Sweden, Ukraine and United States.

https://unece.org/DAM/trans/doc/2018...tion-final.pdf

in general if come USA citizen and have Germany, Canada, any country outside the USA sailing license i don't give him a boat without skipper.USA citizen with Germany residency, german or usa license i give him boat Why because insurance want this way.

[Simon.Sails]

Am I the only one who finds noonsite not very helpful in researching actual requirements per country? Any better source that explains things in clear and understandable terms?

[goboatingnow]

It should be pointed out that Greece recognises the ICC , it’s just that it doesn’t issue them itself

Many countries that didn’t or still don’t require any qualifications didn’t sign the resolutions , but are quite happy to recognise the icc

[goboatingnow]

The Irish ISA and U.K. RYA have special dispensations to issue icc to countries that don’t issue national iccs including the USA

[leok]

Originally Posted by Hahser

Any feedback on this registration outfit?

I am looking to use them but information in their emails seems conditional on me having paid upfront.

Are they legit?

I've used https://www.yachtregistration.compan...ration-poland/
They were very responsive with any questions I had. I would recommend them. The process took 28 days and I got my provisional registration within 15 days.

[George DuBose]

I think I posted this before, but I took the NauticEd course which is listed as a US sailing license the the Croats accept. I am attaching a document that lists all the possible sailing licenses accepted from various countries.

[krismatski]

I just helped a sailing pal from Hungary to register his yacht in Poland. It took about a months. This registration requires no renewal nor technical inspection, as long as it is a recreational / pleasure use declared. Some sailors (me too ) counts their bucks or Euros. The boat registration cost him EUR 280, including a sworn translation, as required.

[George DuBose]

All this talk about registering a foreign flagged boat in Poland.

Does one not have to pay VAT to Poland? One does not have to have a Post-Construction Assessment survey?

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by George DuBose

All this talk about registering a foreign flagged boat in Poland.



Does one not have to pay VAT to Poland? One does not have to have a Post-Construction Assessment survey?

Vat and flag resignation technically have nothing to do with each other

Poland needs documented proof that if vat is due it has been paid. It didn’t matter where.

Post construction Certs are not needed for production boats.

[George DuBose]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Vat and flag resignation technically have nothing to do with each other

Poland needs documented proof that if vat is due it has been paid. It didn’t matter where.

Post construction Certs are not needed for production boats.

I was referring to a US built boat that was not in the EU prior to 1998 and my understanding was that when I brought my 1973 Pearson 36 to the EU as a resident of the EU, I was required to pay VAT to the first country I landed in and was required to put the boat through a PCA to have the boat CE marked.

[krismatski]

Originally Posted by George DuBose

All this talk about registering a foreign flagged boat in Poland.

Does one not have to pay VAT to Poland? One does not have to have a Post-Construction Assessment survey?

A few months ago I registered in Poland boat I build by my own according to plans purchased from a French Naval Architect. Except presenting basic data from the plans, such as dimensions, STIX calculation and the design category statement, an official statement of mine as the manufacturer was needed that the boat was built by me in a proper manner. No obligatory inspection was required.
However, if one wants for own purpose may order such a service.