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Old 14-02-2013, 08:46   #346
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Re: The Most Basic Essential Foods

Seafood catches tend to be more highly regulated than fish, and in many countries if you are not a native, you aren't allowed much or any of either. Even here in the US fishing, lobstering, without a license may literally leave you standing in your underwear with any "equipment" you used seized on the spot. (There was a DEC officer who wanted to make his point some time ago, and yes, he did exactly that.)

If you plan to rely on the ocean for your protein, don't let that become an easy way to lose your boat.
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Old 14-02-2013, 09:18   #347
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Anecdotally, I have heard that occasionally a FL fish cop will dive under yer boat for evidence of "winter crab" carapaces, snook carcasses, certain crustacean clawshell chunks, and the like. I'd think if they'd go that far, they might well take your stuff. That "tomato" plant? Fuggetaboutit.

Hell, in the Keys, they wouldn't even have to dive.
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Old 14-02-2013, 12:12   #348
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You try crumbles also for meat and poultry.

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Old 14-02-2013, 13:36   #349
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Actually, one more little bit of information. If you use a pressure cooker for your pot, the lid cannot jump off in a lumpy seaway, cause it's "screwed down". This does NOT mean that you have to use pressure, though you can, and it speeds beans along their way. Also, WITH THE SEAL REMOVED, you can cook bread in the cooker, on top a low to medium flame.

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kingwoodie wrote "The only thing that you should stock up in large quantities is toilet paper. Hard to get in some areas." ==> Actually this is a first world habit. Here in the Philippines (and likely in many other third world countries) the majority of the population uses a 'tabo' - basically a plastic pan that is used to dip water from a bucket and pour on your ass with one hand while washing with the other. No toilet tissue needed - to buy, to carry/store, or to dispose of. Not having had a lifetime to perfect this process to keep from making a mess, I use a small watering can with the screw on attachment removed to make pouring somewhat more accurate. I just fill it on the way to the head from the ocean the boat sits in (water here is mostly warm and clear). I suppose I could add a bit of Joy to the water but so far I have not bothered. Most of the world doesn't use toilet tissue, and I have adapted to my surroundings - and never even had heard of this before traveling here.
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Bruce, this just screams to be a separate thread.
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Here in the Philippines (and likely in many other third world countries) the majority of the population uses a 'tabo' - basically a plastic pan that is used to dip water from a bucket and pour on your ass with one hand while washing with the other. No toilet tissue needed - to buy, to carry/store, or to dispose of.
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Bruce, this just screams to be a separate thread.
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Reading about washing with one hand while hosing with the other just doesn't combine well with eating breakfast LOL.
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Washing with one hand is why large parts of the world consider one hand to be unclean, and extending that hand (as in a handshake) or partaking in foods with it, to be terribly poor manners.

TP may be a western habit, and a fairly recent one, but what used to be called "sanitary paper" has become popular in the first/second world for reasons. Apparently the Roman Empire used a sea sponge on a stick, soaking in a bucket of vinegar, for the same purpose. Washing with water? Maybe we've been wrong about that for the last thousand years. Maybe not.
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Apparently the Roman Empire used a sea sponge on a stick, soaking in a bucket of vinegar, for the same purpose.

Note sea sponge, not yer loofa!

In keeping on topic, which would be the best vinegar?
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Reading about washing with one hand while hosing with the other just doesn't combine well with eating breakfast LOL.
Was raised in the US where using TP is the norm. Being objective: The French got it right with the bidet. But lacking that equipment; the Philippine or watering can method is likely to have a more hygienic result than pushing a mess around with paper (assuming you wash hands with soap and water after, but you're doing that anyway right?) Also doesn't waste trees.
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I think we're getting cross-contamination with this new thread ... lol
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I'll have to admit that I was planning on stocking up on a lot of toilet paper, but I suppose there are alternatives to consider ... when I run out of toilet paper

Hmmm, elephant ears are toxic to eat, but perhaps they offer another advantage ... though, I suppose, that could still lead to being poisoned too ...

If you extend your left hand in many countries, it is considered an insult for this very reason ...
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"elephant ears are toxic to eat"
That would be the elephant ear plant.

Although, attempting to eat an elephant's ear might also be ill-advised.
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Good to hear something nice about the French for a change!

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+1 Fries
+1 Wine
+1 Bread

Essentials all. What else ya got?
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Was raised in the US where using TP is the norm. Being objective: The French got it right with the bidet. But lacking that equipment; the Philippine or watering can method is likely to have a more hygienic result than pushing a mess around with paper (assuming you wash hands with soap and water after). Also doesn't waste trees.
Bidet is good! I just don't see how using a hand is at all hygienic. A simple hand wash won't get ingrained stuff off and what about the bits that get under your finger nails? And it then gets transferred onto objects that your "clean" hand touches. It's a serious health risk.

If TP is not an option, what about some form of vegetable matter (leaf handful of grass etc).

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In keeping on topic, which would be the best vinegar?
Most have some kind of antibacterial action. I guess you would use whatever you prefer on your salad.
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Good to hear something nice about the French for a change!

Scorecard:
+1 Bidet
+1 Fries
+1 Wine
+1 Bread

Essentials all. What else ya got?
Fries are belgian but not french
Add to your list:
Foie gras
Frog legs
Mayonnaise (not mayo! In a can)
Cassoulet
Cheese
Etc etc
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