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Old 14-09-2012, 08:41   #46
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Re: Can you live off the bounty of the sea?

Any time we go to sea we fish ! and we have been real lucky at it !! we eat fresh and can the rest ! but live off fish and sea weed ! no way !! We like good hot food at least once a day ! we do eat fish at least 3 times a week ! Down in the Gulf area there are some types of fish we Don't eat ! King Jack for one! they have to much Heavy metal for us ! There are places that seem to be devoid of fish at least we did not catch any in some of them ! but the canned fish we had aboard worked for us ! we also have a small smoker we use at sea. Nothing like smoked tuna, salmon, even barracuda smoked is not to bad !! And Mackeral is great that way !! Ya sure can supplament your diet with fresh fish and conch, lobster if ya dive but as a total diet I think ya would give it up in darn short order!! just our 2 cents
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Re: Can you live off the bounty of the sea?

When we lived aboard in the Keys, Bahamas and the Caribbean, we never had a problem catching fish and harvesting conch (not allowed in the Keys). We ate grunts, yellowtail, red snapper and grouper along the reefs and in the shallows and caught dolphin, mackerel, blues and tuna while trolling offshore. We used "slop bait" (the entrails of the conch) and pilchards in the shallows(which we caught on tiny hooks) and trolled hula lures and spoons offshore. All that is needed is some basic skills and time on the water. I do believe you can live off the bounty of the sea if your hunting grounds include reefs, the shallows and offshore.
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Re: Can you live off the bounty of the sea?

Well, the Eskimos come close by eating anything they can gather, harpoon or catch including sea birds, feathers and all.
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Well, the Eskimos come close by eating anything they can gather, harpoon or catch including sea birds, feathers and all.
So is it red or white wine with blubber? The current theory is that the first inhabitants of the North American continent got here by following the coastline and living off the bounty of the sea. I suppose it is still possible to live off the sea but you would have to be somewhere fairly remote what with over fishing and pollution in the more "civilized" regions.
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Re: Can you live off the bounty of the sea?

White wine---seafood.
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Re: Can you live off the bounty of the sea?

This tread brings up some interesting points. As I plan my cruising adventure, one thing which worries me is getting the right healthy foods aboard a boat. I currently live on a farm and most of my food comes from my farm, mushrooms,honey, cheese, milk, butter, lard,corn, wheat, eggs, poultry, beef, pork, venison, fruit and vegetables. I now spend less than ten dollars a week at grocery stores (coffee and fresh fruit mostly). I know I will need to outfit my boat with a grain mill to grind flour and meal, do a lot of canning, and spend a lot of time seeking out farmers near the waterfront to purchase healthy foods.

My question is, how reliable are freezer systems on boats, don't want to lose half a year worth of meat.

Also, how available is meat on the hoof in other countries?

How available is dairy from local farms in other countries?
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How available is dairy from local farms in other countries?
Depends on where you are cruising too. In some areas I would be cautious about about meat and cook it well as in some third world countries the standard of meat animal inspections and vaccinations is not up to USDA standards. I would say the same goes with some dairy products as well, and milk may or may not be pasteurized.
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White wine---seafood.
Hmmm. A sauvignon blanc, maybe, but definitely not a chardonnay.
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Re: Can you live off the bounty of the sea?

Maybe some do not understand the meaning of "meat on the hoof". That is buying live animals. That would mean I inspect the farm, see how the animals are raised, what they are fed, the general health of the herd, and then I butcher the animal myself. I do not eat meat from animals that have received vaccanations, that is a real no no in my boat. (pun intended). As far as dairy, I will be present to observe the animal and milking and processing. I do not buy dairy nor meat here in America from chain grocery stores now, that stuff will kill you. If I don't produce it myself, I buy it from farmers I know and personally inspect their farms and their methods.
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Oh I know exactly what you meant. In some areas of the world that may not be an option--the animals are brought to you, or at least to the market place, and you may not have the opportunity to see how they were raised and fed as the farmsteads may be remote or well up country. As I said before, it all depends on where you are cruising to.
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Re: Can you live off the bounty of the sea?

Buy any meat on the hoof(or claw or fin) there lately Astrid? I usually make them put it on ice before I buy it. :-)
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Re: Can you live off the bounty of the sea?

Jeez Jansen why would you become a waterborne hermit and do a thing like that ? who urinated on your chips and spoiled your day ?
As other people have already pointed out why miss out on juicy steaks,wine,women and beer. We're here for a good life not a long life, so lighten up.
We supplement our bought food with seasonable fruit/vegetables when cruising the French canals and seafood/shellfish caught at sea as part of a balanced diet.
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Yep. Japanese live longer than most and eat more fish than most.
They used to, maybe now not so much.
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Re: Can you live off the bounty of the sea?

The Pacific North West was good to the Haida, (until we brought them Small Pox). They were the only tribes where the food gathering and hunting was done entirely by the women. The men were busy creating art.

Anyway I found Desolation Sound to be a giant food-store. Oysters, Clams, Prawns, Crab, Lots of Fish and the fruit of the forest. I'm sure I could survive quite happily there.

Try to get your hands on the book, The Curve of Time to see excellent examples of homesteading in Desolation Sound.

There would be something satisfying about being self-sufficient and who ever knows when it could become necessary!
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