Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by transmitterdan

Ken,

Thanks for finding the article. I am directly involved in this research. If the world does not lose its resolve then fusion power will be a reality before this century is over.
How do we know fusion works? Answer: The sun comes up every morning.

An open letter in favour of nuclear energy was published on 2013.

To those influencing environmental policy but opposed to nuclear power:

As climate and energy scientists concerned with global climate change, we are writing to urge you to advocate the development and deployment of safer nuclear energy systems. We appreciate your organization’s concern about global warming, and your advocacy of renewable energy. But continued opposition to nuclear power threatens humanity’s ability to avoid dangerous climate change.

Check out the signatories, especially the third one.

http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/20...nuclear-power/

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Muckle Flugga

You know the average atmospheric CO2 across the phanerozoic is around 2000 to 2500 ppm?

How many current food crops could survive in that atmosphere?

Increased CO2 is harmful to our food crops which evolved and were domesticated in an atmosphere that never exceeded 300 ppm in the past 800,000 years.

Increased CO2 in open environments leads to
1) Increased predation by pests
doi: 10.1073/pnas.0800568105

2) Compromised nutritional value in food crops
doi:10.1038/nature13179

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

Plants love CO2. In fact... they gobble it up and via photosynthesis and to make the oxygen that us humans need.

Plants also love N, P and K. Dump a whole of that on your lawn and watch what happens.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

I didn't know Joseph Kennedy Sr. read National Review?

I think Buckley would be embarrassed by the current version of the National Review. While I often disagreed with his views, I respected his intellect.

[Sea Frog]

It won't matter in 20 years because mankind will self-destruct by then. And remaining survivors will have other stuff to worry about.

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by jackdale

I think Buckley would be embarrassed by the current version of the National Review. While I often disagreed with his views, I respected his intellect.

Jack,

That was just my way of correcting the lake-effect fellow's incorrect understanding of 1930's history... using a little sarcasm.

[Liam Wald]

Originally Posted by Sea Frog

It won't matter in 20 years because mankind will self-destruct by then. And remaining survivors will have other stuff to worry about.

Will have little or no effect on Kieth Richards!

[kentobin]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

Climate Change Predictions

Just a reaffirmation of the fact that the only things guaranteed in life are birth, death, and taxes.

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by Sea Frog

It won't matter in 20 years because mankind will self-destruct by then. And remaining survivors will have other stuff to worry about.

WATERWORLD!!!

[Johnk23]

Longtime lurker had to register to chime in on this one.

There will always be zealots and naysayers, but the rest of us are in between. It doesn't take a whole lot of data to realize we all need to think about how we impact the environment. If you see a bunch of plastic in the water then think about buying and throwing away less plastic. If the air is too smoggy think about cleaner energy or using motors less. If you are in the worst drought in your lifetime think about how you waste water. Come on, people...

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by Liam Wald

Will have little or no effect on Kieth Richards!

LOL!!! Priceless.

[GordMay]

Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Johnk.

[Celestialsailor]

Originally Posted by Delancey

Hmmm. Strange....

Originally Posted by Delancey

Think I'm starting to see a trend here

Originally Posted by Delancey

I crossed the Atlantic last summer. Hardly a day went by that I didn't see some trash in the water. Styrofoam is especially brilliant white when it has been floating at sea for a while.

Originally Posted by Delancey

Well, I don't think you will see graphs like that for things like new species evolving or for natural resources being replenished. Do you?

Please explain to me how someone's livelihood could depend on extinction rates going up? I would think the contrary for anyone living on the planet.

Originally Posted by Delancey

Zee, luv ya. Reely due! Butt if ewe thnkn humenz arent responsilly for the deklin in world shark populations then their reely iz no hope.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...eatened_sharks

Delancey...Please stop confusing us with fact!

[zeehag]

as i have been waiting for the water to rise since 1958, when i read about it in the world telegram and sun, which may have been only world telegram at that point, i have been readying self for waterworld.
BRING IT ON!!!!
and, as keith richards is an icon of blues music in both the guises of r n r and blues, i will accept his neveraging ass into my boat as musical crew.
he is an icon for agelessness.
so what are a few wrinkles..damn bludi man is bionic.
or something.

boycott sharkfin soup.
toobad that doesnt work well.....without wanton sinking of ships and allout war to change customs of others not ourselves.
seems mexicans use all the fish caught-- marlin is delicious. most white folks catch the fishie and waste the meat. tell marlins how restorative that is.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

Jack,

That was just my way of correcting the lake-effect fellow's incorrect understanding of 1930's history... using a little sarcasm.

I see. You can name one 1930 plutocrat who's a democrat who praised Hitler and suddenly my whole argument should come crumbling down?

The NR has an uncomfortable history with Hitler and fascism and even Wm F Jr's distancing himself from his fathers anti-Semitism hasn't completely erased the taint. But this is a derail.

My point is - that article was... crap. Most of it's central arguments are all easily dismissed as easy as the throwaway "horse manure" comparison.

But there must have been something in that article that you thought was a useful point. I'm assuming it's the message that the problem will Sort Itself Out and We'll Be Ok, Really (sorry for the caps but c'mon the article was pretty patronizing and smug in the way it tried to make this point).

Could you expand on what you think is valuable in that article?