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Old 07-04-2015, 08:05   #1
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Poaching vessel Thunder sinks

Sea Shepherd Global - Poaching Vessel, Thunder, Sinks in Suspicious Circumstances

Other reports state that she also had no remaining fuel on board; tanked or otherwise. Can't say I'm sad to see her go!

When are the other vessels of "Bandit 6" going under....
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I think most of them have been held in various ports. I hope they prosecute them all. Way to go Sea Shepherd! Pirates or not, they are actually out there making a difference.
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Detained is a start, but impounding is the vessels is the only way they won't be back later to pillage some more.

Sea Shepherd; pirates with a higher purpose!
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I think most of them have been held in various ports. I hope they prosecute them all. Way to go Sea Shepherd! Pirates or not, they are actually out there making a difference.
You can listen to a good interview with Watson at "The Green Interview."

He's a bit of a nut, but aren't we all. He is doing good work.
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"Aren't the radicals the ones out destroying the oceans" Watson answers on being accused of being a radical.
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Sea Shepherd Global - Poaching Vessel, Thunder, Sinks in Suspicious Circumstances

Other reports state that she also had no remaining fuel on board; tanked or otherwise. Can't say I'm sad to see her go!

When are the other vessels of "Bandit 6" going under....
Sea Shepherd strikes again.

Last Known Chilean Sea Bass Poaching Ship Caught in Indonesia | TakePart

The Indonesian navy plans to sink the Viking within the next few days.
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Sea Shepherd strikes again.

Last Known Chilean Sea Bass Poaching Ship Caught in Indonesia.
The Indonesian navy plans to sink the Viking within the next few days.

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Awesome news!
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Great news! While I disagree with most of the Sea Shepherd tactics, I applaud them for following the vessel into Indonesian waters and notifying the authorities.

Maybe they are starting to "grow up".
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Sea Shepherd strikes again.

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The Indonesian navy plans to sink the Viking within the next few days.
Good stuff someone has to be interested enough to stop this sort of organised poaching. Well done Sea Shepherd.
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Great news! While I disagree with most of the Sea Shepherd tactics, I applaud them for following the vessel into Indonesian waters and notifying the authorities.

Maybe they are starting to "grow up".
Its what they have always done. Its just that many governments wont respond. But Sea Shepherd hasn't changed anything.
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They seem pretty "grown up" to me, as well as effective.

What grown up tactics do you mean? Treaties? Talk about it? Ask nice? I'm pretty sure the effectiveness of those tactics is low in a lot of cases.

The destruction of our planet continues, and efforts to stop killing our oceans should be applauded.
In my eyes "the ends justify the means" in Sea Shepard's case.

O.K., let the slam fest begin.......I'm going to work.....
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They seem pretty "grown up" to me, as well as effective.

What grown up tactics do you mean? Treaties? Talk about it? Ask nice? I'm pretty sure the effectiveness of those tactics is low in a lot of cases.

The destruction of our planet continues, and efforts to stop killing our oceans should be applauded.
In my eyes "the ends justify the means" in Sea Shepard's case.

O.K., let the slam fest begin.......I'm going to work.....
In my view, 'the ends justifies the means' is never valid. too much of a slippery sloap.

But, SS do a job hardly anyone else will do.
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Read Sea of Soaughter, you might change your mind about valid methods.

SS does good work.
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Slippery slopes and means to an end, piratical actions re: "ramming" or otherwise interfering with whaling ships....... Sea Shepherd gets some folks upset, no?

But consider this: many of those actions by SS are taken against vessels operating beyond control of international authority amidst dubious "claims" by said vessels of adhering (kind of) to legalities. Those targeted vessels reap (or rape) a harvest from the sea that adds profit to somebodies pockets. And at the expense of everybody else trying to exist on this planet.

Humph and Bah Humbug. Vigilante actions occur when authorities turn a blind eye or cannot (will not) intervene.

Just because it's legal - or even quasi legal - doesn't mean it's right. That the Viking was "arrested" by Indonesia shows that international law CAN be effective but it would NOT have been applied had not Sea Shepherd done the hard work. And now that fishing ship will be scuttled/sunk. Yay! Another artificial reef for the fish.

May the Captain, Ship's Officers and owners be brought before the courts, found guilty, and imprisoned. In an Indonesian jail, hopefully.

Now ask me how I REALLY feel about all this.....
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Slippery slopes and means to an end, piratical actions re: "ramming" or otherwise interfering with whaling ships....... Sea Shepherd gets some folks upset, no?

But consider this: many of those actions by SS are taken against vessels operating beyond control of international authority amidst dubious "claims" by said vessels of adhering (kind of) to legalities. Those targeted vessels reap (or rape) a harvest from the sea that adds profit to somebodies pockets. And at the expense of everybody else trying to exist on this planet.

Humph and Bah Humbug. Vigilante actions occur when authorities turn a blind eye or cannot (will not) intervene.

Just because it's legal - or even quasi legal - doesn't mean it's right. That the Viking was "arrested" by Indonesia shows that international law CAN be effective but it would NOT have been applied had not Sea Shepherd done the hard work. And now that fishing ship will be scuttled/sunk. Yay! Another artificial reef for the fish.

May the Captain, Ship's Officers and owners be brought before the courts, found guilty, and imprisoned. In an Indonesian jail, hopefully.

Now ask me how I REALLY feel about all this.....
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I pretty much agree with you i just wont call them 'pirates' as they dont fit any definition of pirate that i know off, and they dont generally do the ramming from what ive seen. but im damn sure im pleased someone cares enough to be out there stopping the poaching.
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