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Old 09-01-2012, 12:32   #121
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Re: Liveaboard Anchoring .......

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You sound very experienced in it

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the boat i sailed gom in wasnt set well for anchor gear--- he only used 30 ft 3/8 chain with a 35 pound cqr for a 37 seidelmann..... dragged as fast as wind blew many times.
my own gear only dragged one time in my life. dec 23, 2011, old harbor mazatlan. i dont expect too many of those nights. i use good stuff, not too short or too light.
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Old 09-01-2012, 17:37   #122
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5/8 " -- are you sure??? looks more like 3/8 to me! 5/8 is pretty damn big chain for a yacht of your size IMO.

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Good eye Jim 7/16 BBB. It only feels like 5/8 when you load it in the truck by hand. We displace 55000 and are 72,000 on the crane hook. Chain is OK but anchors small. I can't imagine having to haul up by hand on windlass failure. My cousin had our sister-ship and said they used all of their 450 feet in the Med.

Our chain locker is quite big but the chain piles up like a child's sand castle and blocks the hawse pipe. anyone have suggestions?
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Re: Liveaboard Anchoring .......

We use the AIS for anchor watch but I always bring up a pad and pencil to recored bearings on hand-held bearing compass. Record boats near you as well.
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Old 09-01-2012, 19:56   #124
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Good eye Jim 7/16 BBB. It only feels like 5/8 when you load it in the truck by hand. We displace 55000 and are 72,000 on the crane hook. Chain is OK but anchors small. I can't imagine having to haul up by hand on windlass failure. My cousin had our sister-ship and said they used all of their 450 feet in the Med.

Our chain locker is quite big but the chain piles up like a child's sand castle and blocks the hawse pipe. anyone have suggestions?
Do you have access through the v- berth? On one boat I have had to open the access and knock down the chain pile.
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Re: Liveaboard Anchoring .......

Re the chain pile --

I think that it was here on CF that it was suggested that placing an upward facing cone, sorta like a mini traffic cone, just under the chain pipe would keep the dreaded pile from forming. Seemed to me to be a possibly good idea but I've not yet tried it. Wonder if anyone else has?

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Do you have access through the v- berth? On one boat I have had to open the access and knock down the chain pile.
I just use the boat hook handle to knock it down.
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I just use the boat hook handle to knock it down.
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Some boats such as Island Packet, Saga, etc. do not have have chain access from the deck.
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Our chain locker access is only from the cabin.
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Chain locker: the only thing that works is a vertical narrow but high chain locker. A good example is a 16" dia sched.80 PVC pipe of 5' high. This will hold about 300' of 3/8" chain and will never pile up. The problem is finding that 5' of height. This is Dashew's solution to that:

Not pretty but effective and it also brings the weight further aft.

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Re: Liveaboard Anchoring .......

Good plan in this situation. I expect it is very important to completely anchor the pipe so no surprises in nasty seas.

Our anchor windlass, as you see in the photo with the legs above, (by the way, there is a Maxwell horizontal with rope gypsie in that photo), is below deck level. It is a bit impractical to move the ground tackle. I'm not even sure if I could adequately attach it well aft, not to mention its substantial size on deck. The Anchor locker is forward of the V-berth partitian and there is about 50 inches from the hawse pipe to the bottom of the V at the stem. When all 300 feet are in the locker and leveled by hand there is still about 18 inches clear. The top surface at this point is a triangle about 36 inches on a side.
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You would need to install reinforcements where the windlass goes, like knees or partial bulkhead (big plywood knee).

The pipe was an example that is used by some Sundeers. I have a plywood core fiberglass locker but of similar dimensions. The locker must be anchored very sturdy yes.

There is another reinforcement where the chainstopper is. It would be a pretty big project I guess.

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Some boats such as Island Packet, Saga, etc. do not have have chain access from the deck.
The boat hook handle fits through the hawser, a couple of pokes to knock down the pile, simple and easy.
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G'day, Mate. Yup, the bigger the better, plenty of scope (even if it means getting away from other boats anchored and use your motor to back down and SET it. Best insurance money can buy. Cheers.

I agree on a bigger anchor, but plenty of scope as in more is better is stupid.

And I bet not one person here knows all the reasons why it is bad idea to have too much scope out.
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Downloaded drag queen all works but unable to get audible alarm to operate can any one help
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Downloaded drag queen all works but unable to get audible alarm to operate can any one help
If the audible alarm is on Drag Queen then I bet some sound device is off on your phone. Mine was low & I thought it was the
program but I turned the sound up as it was ringing & it got quite loud-enough to wake me up I hope. Still not sure if I'd rely only on it but it is something to have below.
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