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Old 20-09-2011, 22:53   #46
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Why not have it delivered for a third of that shipping cost....
Just a question...for a third of that cost, what route would you take, regarding the pirate, seasonal and time issues?
How long would it take you to get from HKG to let's say the Mediterranean or Northern Europe?
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dep feb via cape town,arrive gib june assuming cat can make 150 miles a day and in good condition+-$35000
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Now I have checked and rechecked and as far as I can see, departure frrom HKG in Jan-Feb down through Sunda Straights, over Cape Town, up to Brazil, Caribbean and then regular route over to English Channel and then home to Sweden, would be possible to do in one trip according to wind and currents.
It would mean roughly 5 months at sea and 2-3 months on land, to be back home in mid August (if no major ifs occur).
Juat about as you said Atoll, despite the Gib goal on your suggestion.
Am I right or am I wrong?
Have I missed anything?
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Hi Tolly,

I'm in Taiwan and have cruised in Japan, including several visits in foreign-registered boats. It's perfectly do-able, don't let the red-tape stop you.

Someone mentioned heading up the Bering Strait and turning left, which sounds like an awesome idea. The first sailing boats did this a few years ago, and this year the route has been used by oil tankers.

Apparently this will save you 4000 miles!

The minimum sea ice is mid-September, and the route is generally open for 3-4 months July-October. You could probably have a nice leisurely trip from HK through Japan, riding the Kuroshio Current, take in Korea and Siberia, and the start pushing north as the ice melts.

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Now I have checked and rechecked and as far as I can see, departure frrom HKG in Jan-Feb down through Sunda Straights, over Cape Town, up to Brazil, Caribbean and then regular route over to English Channel and then home to Sweden, would be possible to do in one trip according to wind and currents.
It would mean roughly 5 months at sea and 2-3 months on land, to be back home in mid August (if no major ifs occur).
Juat about as you said Atoll, despite the Gib goal on your suggestion.
Am I right or am I wrong?
Have I missed anything?
yes correct time frame,but i wouldn't bother with brazil and the carib,from cape town would head for the cape verdes,then madiera,then n europe.
would save at least a month or 2,requires a bit of motor sailing to windward,but avoids n atlantic hurricane season.
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correction,for northen europe would head cape verdes to azores in aprox may,then english channel/ireland
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I'd skip Brazil and the Carib as well...
you've got the power use it and your motors will love it....
Price about right for everything... barring breakage's...
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Re: Hong Kong to Mediterranean

I guess it depends on at what time I depart from Cape Town. If I have the time, I think I would prefer Carib and from there over Bermuda or directly to Azores, instead of going over Cap Verde and then be motoring for several days. I would need a lot of fuel passing the Azores High, and nowhere to fill up if I run empty.
Can I leave CT in April it should be no problem leaving Carib beginning mid June, which would be good enough. No major risk for hurricane at that time.
I guess that plan would hold.
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Re: Hong Kong to Mediterranean

no problem geting to the carib at that time,but leaving it a bit late for leaving the carib to the azores.

you can pretty much leave ct at any time of the year and continue safely south of 10n to the carib.

i reccomended the cape verde route as most depressions form to the west making a late departure to n atlantic and onto europe safer and possable in a 5 month time frame.

via carib you are probably looking at 7 months and maximum amount of time in hurricane prone areas.

also re motoring on a 16 000 mile trip,crossing the equator twice you need to plan on at least 3000 miles of motoring,if not more to keep on schedule.
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Re: Hong Kong to Mediterranean

Well, it seemes as if I have found the ultimate route for me, after the discussions back and forth on the forum. It has been very helpful to get the different advices, to find the best route for this special trip.
Had I just wanted to cruise around and without time scedule slowly finding a suitable path to follow, it would have been a totally different thing, but it is as it is this time.
As I already said once before in this thread, thanks for for the help.
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