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Old 10-05-2015, 10:56   #16
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Re: What's the best kind of sailboat to buy for a beginner?

For that price you might be able to get a Catalina 22. Personally I'd get fixed keel.

You'd definitely be able to get a Grampian 23. Very spacious 23's with a pop top. I'm not sure how far I'd go out on the ocean on one, but in the 80's our family of 5 sailed all over Lake Ontario and Georgian Bay in one, including direct over night trips from Kingston-Toronto, about 200 miles, often 15-20 miles off shore.

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Old 10-05-2015, 11:53   #17
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Re: What's the best kind of sailboat to buy for a beginner?

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You may want to consider a Santana 22. They sail much better than a Catalina 22 and can be trailered. There are at least 3 for sale in the SF Bay area for under $2000. The fixed keel makes them more suited for SF Bay and the ocean. In fact an old acquaintance of mine, Homer Lighthall of Santa Cruz sailed one to Hawaii in the 70's. They can be launched from a hoist and some boat ramps. If you are patient, you'll be able to find one in good shape in your price range. I'd prioritize an outboard and trailer. Good luck.


I concur.

There were at least 800 of the Santana 22s built and they were still building them up to 2010. I used to see them sailing all over the SFBay.

SANTANA 22 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com

They also look nicer than a Cal 20, to me. And being that there are so many factors in choosing a boat, how a sailboat looks is important to total satisfaction. I have raced on a Cal 20, in SF Bay, and while I enjoy sailing on most boats, I could not find the old Cal 20 appealing.

Of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I have liked some boats that others find unappealing, but I want a boat I consider at least appealing to look at. YMMV

To Popeyes Wife:
Here is a link to the Latitude 38 Classy Classified section for smaller boats under 24 feet loa.
Latitude 38 - The West's Premier Sailing and Marine Magazine

With boats like this, you will need to either keep the boat in a slip, or have a trailer and vehicle that can tow it safely AND have the ability to raise the mast and rig it after trailering in it somewhere. If you intend to do a lot of solo sailing, make sure you feel comfortable And able to lift the mast if you go with a trailer boat.

Added to that, I suggest you first contact the local fleet for the type of boat you find most appealing. Ask to find some owners of that type of boat. Ask them to take you sailing, make it worth it to them. Learn how to raise the mast. If you find that raising it yourself is too difficult you can then see if the boat will be suitable for your plans to take it from Tahoe sailing to Bay sailing via trailer.

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Old 10-05-2015, 12:36   #18
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Re: What's the best kind of sailboat to buy for a beginner?

definitely a swing keel boat.


balboa 26, comes on a low boy trailer. more room than a C 22. older boat so it will be cheap you can take it in the ocean 9to a certain degree)


drive your trailer to Ensenada then sail the boat down, trailer in back.
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Re: What's the best kind of sailboat to buy for a beginner?

I think we should put the brakes on at this point. The OP has 1 post and is not participating.
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Re: What's the best kind of sailboat to buy for a beginner?

If Popeye's wife is still with us I would advise her to look for boats that are very popular to the area where she'll be sailing. I loved my Catalina 22 because there were bunches of them and parts and expertise were available. Where they are popular bargains can be found.
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Hello all,
I've heard that some people have sailboats wasting away in garages or docks that they'd practically give away. How do I find these people?
Check the obituaries.
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Re: What's the best kind of sailboat to buy for a beginner?

I recommend the C&C25 mk1 (1970-1979).

Good solid, quality built boat, easy to handle, easy to own.
Big boat feel, comfy below for a night or three.
Goes fast.
Due to age, low price...plenty for sale in my area between $1000-$3000 cdn!
Get the outboard model, with a newer outboard. Or do what I did...no engine at all...you'll REALLY learn to sail like that!!!!!

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Re: What's the best kind of sailboat to buy for a beginner?

A give a way boat will normally cost you much more than one for $1000 that is still in pretty good condition, There are bargains out there, but you can waste a life finding one and then waste the next lifetime fixing it up.
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Re: What's the best kind of sailboat to buy for a beginner?

Since you are in Lake Tahoe why not talk to people at the South Lake Tahoe Yacht Club or South Lake Tahoe Sailing about what small sailboats are plentiful there. There may be bulletin boards at the clubs there with boats for sail.


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Re: What's the best kind of sailboat to buy for a beginner?

"I don't want a sailboat that I have to fix because I don't know how to fix a sailboat."

I don't mean this in a discouraging way, but any sailboat in your price range is going to need some work sooner or later. No-one sets out knowing how to fix boats, but they learn. For many people, learning new repair skills is part of the fun of boat ownership. I would recommend Don Casey's "Complete Sailboat Maintenance Manual", which also includes an excellent chapter on pre-purchase inspection.
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I don't want a sailboat that I have to fix because I don't know how to fix a sailboat.
Then you better get some more money.

You need either money or skills. Skills are easier to come by than money.
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Then you better get some more money.

You need either money or skills. Skills are easier to come by than money.
Lol. Very true.

Except it's even worse than your saying. It seems you need money AND skills.

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Re: What's the best kind of sailboat to buy for a beginner?

I second the Grampian 23 vote. Widely considered the best model Grampian built. It's a big, little boat, I think more forgiving than the Catalina 22 although I can't say anything negative about Catalinas. I raised 3 kids on a 25 every weekend for 15 years. The 22 is a well respected boat with probably a better resale in the USA. The Grampian was a Canadian boat so not as well known in America.
I mostly support the dinghy suggestion if you want to hone sailing skills. I still own a Laser and now into my mid sixties put a wetsuit on a couple times a year and tune up those intricate skills that we all seem to lose or get lazy to sailing forgiving displacement hulls.
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To each is own the only kind u buy is the kind your comfortable with and suits YOUR lifestyles feel the love in em all
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