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Old 14-07-2022, 10:32   #16
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Re: Original oil painting - Glorious America's Cup 1980 - Franco Costa

It all smells a bit fishy 🐟
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Re: Original oil painting - Glorious America's Cup 1980 - Franco Costa

Anything is worth the amount it can be sold for regardless of what an expert says it is worth. I believe the lack of response to your price should send you a message. Find a large venue with a fair amount of art traffic then drop the price a thousand every two weeks until it sells. You will have established it’s worth and gotten a fair market value for it. Personally it is not attractive to me so I wouldn’t give you 20 bucks but hey if everybody liked the same thing one part of the world would be very crowded.
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Asking price: $25.000

That’s 25 dollars NOT $25,000.or put another way NOT 25k.

Adding zeros after the ( .)Decimal point is adding fractions

I am out at 25$ or 25k sorry I am unimpressed with the illustration.

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Asking price: $25.000

That’s 25 dollars NOT $25,000.or put another way NOT 25k.

Adding zeros after the ( .)Decimal point is adding fractions

I am out at 25$ or 25k sorry I am unimpressed with the illustration.

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Well, to most of the world it is the other way round, the dot separates thousands groupings and the comma separates the fractions

And according to International Bureau of Weights and Measures neither is correct, thousands groupings should be separated with a space, that way there is no confusion over the radix used for fractions.
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Well, to most of the world it is the other way round, the dot separates thousands groupings and the comma separates the fractions

And according to International Bureau of Weights and Measures neither is correct, thousands groupings should be separated with a space, that way there is no confusion over the radix used for fractions.
Hmm... fractions are fractions and decimals are decimals. I don't know of anywhere that mixes the two in one quantity.
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Well, to most of the world it is the other way round, the dot separates thousands groupings and the comma separates the fractions

And according to International Bureau of Weights and Measures neither is correct, thousands groupings should be separated with a space, that way there is no confusion over the radix used for fractions.
Hey Pippa, I’m in the US, the OP did not specify another currency so until then it’s US dollars…. for me. In weight, in the USA, the decimal separates a whole from a fraction, so it would be 25.000 pounds in the US ,same as the currency.
In the USA a grift ( a plot to extract money from unsuspecting or situationally gullible)can be recognized from foreign entities with some tells, these are incorrect spellings, incorrect monetary amounts, odd fonts, and non descript OPs no location, no boat, no post history, these are all indicators. I have become an expert at this over the past couple of years because of the shear volume of BS I have encountered.
My gut says the same about the OP
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Fun fact: The US dollar is the most widely used currency in international transactions (Wikipedia)
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Hmm... fractions are fractions and decimals are decimals. I don't know of anywhere that mixes the two in one quantity.
OK, he should have said "fractional part" to be precise, but "fraction" is commonly understood to mean the "fractional part" when talking about decimal notation (as in the Frac() function common in many programming languages). If you want to get technical, call it the "mantissa"
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Hey Pippa, I’m in the US, the OP did not specify another currency so until then it’s US dollars…. for me. In weight, in the USA, the decimal separates a whole from a fraction, so it would be 25.000 pounds in the US ,same as the currency.
The OP said "My father, who was a personal friend of Franco Costa, bought it from him in the mid-80s,"

Since the painter was Italian, it's a fair inference that the OP's father and the OP are also Italian. The thousands separator used iin Italy is the comma, regardless of the currency in question.

But anyhoo, Manateeman has identified the going price for the artists works ( in the hundreds of dollars range) and given the OP's claim about how much he researched and the authorities he quotes (Post 7), he surely must know that his asking price is so ridiculously high that the word "scam" comes to mind.
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The thousands separator used iin Italy is the comma, regardless of the currency in question.

StuM, I’d double check that.
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........ If you want to get technical, call it the "mantissa"
I luv it when you talk dirty ... but I haven't (yet) fallen for handing over 25 boat bucks to a stranger in interwebby, even if it is a fellow salty CF crew mate.

Pretty sure the thread has established what price is too high for this artwork and it is unlikely to determine an actual valve until a sale is made.

FWIW, I am not expecting to the "SOLD" prefix on the thread anytime soon.
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Re: Original oil painting - Glorious America's Cup 1980 - Franco Costa

Interesting post regarding the 'tells' of a con... would another be describing the piece in question incorrectly?


The post describes this as an acrylic oil painting... but they are two different mediums. Acrylic is water based, and oil paint is made from, well, oils, and combined with a medium like a fat or synthetic... and a pigment of course.


With only the sideways picture to inspect, my impression is that it is acrylic. Sharp lines, thick texture likely done with a palette knife, and no apparent yellowing, although it's not really old enough to have yellowed yet if it were done in oil unless exposed to a lot of uv.





But hey Daniel, I don't think you're trying to pass off a fake, I'm just grinding your winch like everyone else for a bit of fun. I like the painting and would buy it, but not for anywhere close to what you are asking.


I will offer you $1000 for it. This is not a low ball offer or intended as an insult. I'm serious and will go through with the transaction if you are serious about selling. PM me if you want to discuss how we make that happen. This will likely be an escrow arrangement, until we are both satisfied we are getting what we expect.
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StuM, I’d double check that.
Damn. I meant to say period. My comment about the price being ridiculously high doesn't make sense with "comma" there
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The post describes this as an acrylic oil painting... but they are two different mediums. Acrylic is water based, and oil paint is made from, well, oils, and combined with a medium like a fat or synthetic... and a pigment of course..
You might like to google "oil over acrylic"
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Re: Original oil painting - Glorious America's Cup 1980 - Franco Costa

Just a personal opinion. Given the auction results I found, the offer of $ 1,000 would not be unreasonable. I think it is a very fair offer.
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