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Old 18-08-2014, 05:37   #1
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Taking my HAM SSB on Charter Boat in Turkey

Will be sailing 1 week in Turkey on a charter bare boat.

I would like to take my mobile HAM SSB rig and some wire antennas.

Any red tape? Risky? I have a HAM license from Belgium.

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Re: Taking my HAM SSB on Charter Boat in Turkey

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Will be sailing 1 week in Turkey on a charter bare boat.

I would like to take my mobile HAM SSB rig and some wire antennas.

Any red tape? Risky? I have a HAM license from Belgium.

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UBA should be able to tell you. I know what the issues are for US licensees in the EU. Not so sure about you. I know there is still some normalization ongoing with Turkey but I'd suspect that radio license reciprocity would have been pretty easy and should be done. Belgium and Turkey are both members of CEPT so you should be good to go on that basis alone. See Additional Licensing info for Turkey - TA (note the focus on US amateurs operating in other countries).
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Re: Taking my HAM SSB on Charter Boat in Turkey

IIRC, Turkey is not yet part of the EU, so, customs might look at your ham rig with some suspicion. Who knows, with these guys...unless you have an "expediter". SO.....you might want to check with customs officials in Turkey.

And...I suspect you probably need a temporary Turkish ham license. With reciprocity, this is a simple matter of paper work. It could help at customs....again...who knows....but it is required, in order to be 100% legal in that country (which is never a bad thing).

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Re: Taking my HAM SSB on Charter Boat in Turkey

Turkey is a signatory to CEPT TR/61 agreeing cross recognition for CEPT licenses


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Old 18-08-2014, 09:33   #5
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Turkey is a signatory to CEPT TR/61 agreeing cross recognition for CEPT licenses


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Dave, unfortunately my license is a basic license I'm afraid it is not CEPT-recognised....

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Dave, unfortunately my license is a basic license I'm afraid it is not CEPT-recognised....

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Then there is currently no automatic cross recognition and for non CEPT licenses. Its based on a country by country agreement basis.

If you are from a CEPT country but do not have a CEPT license, i don't know where that leaves you

I suggest you look at this and contact them

Foreign Operators information


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Re: Taking my HAM SSB on Charter Boat in Turkey

On a slightly different tack, SSB is little used in the Med, unlike say the Caribbean where lots use it, so unless you want it for any other reason it may not be worth the hassle for a short trip1
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On a slightly different tack, SSB is little used in the Med, unlike say the Caribbean where lots use it, so unless you want it for any other reason it may not be worth the hassle for a short trip1
OP is talking about Ham SSB !

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Yes, but the comment stands!
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Yes, but the comment stands!

Sorry as a HAM, there is a goodly amount of Ham SSB traffic around, there is little on Marine SSB of course.

Ham radio in Europe ( as a wider general area) is not as strong as the USA, thats for sure, most have moved onto higher tech solutions here .

But theres still enough to go around


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Re: Taking my HAM SSB on Charter Boat in Turkey

If I did something as geeky as bringing a HAM SSB on a charter boat vacation my wife would jump ship with a cabana boy...
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Old 19-08-2014, 01:28   #12
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Well Ex-Calif have I good news for you!

Not only does my wife like sailing and boating a lot! She also likes the sound of a receiver hissing in SSB mode! And I am not DXing like a maniac just a quick call once in a while....

So we'll see! Turkish cabana boys be prepared!

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This is the reoly I got from a Turkish HAM. So maybe worthwhile to pack my IC7000 and some wire dipoles!

"Dear Jan,
As long as you’ll not staying in Turkish territory for longer than 3 months you don’t have to apply for a temporary license.

Normally there is almost no control in the customs. If that happens you might be asked for getting the equipment written into the passport. In this case you’ll be having to get this remark deleted from your passport when leaving TA. That means you’ll have to be at the airport 1 hour earlier than normal.

If there is a control by the Turkish Coast Guard during the trip, you should present your licence. Just in case, please note my GSM-Number which is +90-xxxxxxxxxxxx and don’t hesitate to give me a call if there is a problem.

Have a nice time and trip, 73!
Aziz SASA,TA1E"

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Hi Jan,

UBA should be able to tell you. I know what the issues are for US licensees in the EU. Not so sure about you. I know there is still some normalization ongoing with Turkey but I'd suspect that radio license reciprocity would have been pretty easy and should be done. Belgium and Turkey are both members of CEPT so you should be good to go on that basis alone. See Additional Licensing info for Turkey - TA (note the focus on US amateurs operating in other countries).
Super Auspicious! This is what I need. pprinted the document, they are in Turkish.

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Then there is currently no automatic cross recognition and for non CEPT licenses. Its based on a country by country agreement basis.

If you are from a CEPT country but do not have a CEPT license, i don't know where that leaves you

I suggest you look at this and contact them

Foreign Operators information


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Oops mistake in my previous reply. I meant to say thank you Dave that is the link that gave me all I need.

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