Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 06-01-2011, 04:01   #16
Eternal Member

Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,046
Images: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by night0wl View Post
...

Bill - can you speak to renewals? I cant recall if my restricted operators license or ships station license is perpetual...I think the other is 10 year renewal.
The RR (Restricted Radiotelephone Operators License) is good for life.

The ship's Station License is good for 10 years.

Bill
btrayfors is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2011, 08:47   #17
Registered User
 
nknowland's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Currently in Brunswick, GA
Boat: Bayfield 40
Posts: 169
Quote:
Originally Posted by btrayfors View Post
As usual, the FCC has the uncanny ability to complicate things!

It's in Item 18 on schedule B...that's where you check off the equipment. Marine SSB is MF (medium frequency) and HF (high frequency). Check them both. And, check all the others while you're at it!

Bill
Bill ... Got it! You Totally ROCK! thanks so much for pointing me in the right direction!
nknowland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2011, 12:00   #18
Registered User
 
Arclight's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2009
Boat: Fast Passage 40
Posts: 78
$160 for ten years
Arclight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-01-2011, 08:01   #19
Registered User
 
nknowland's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Currently in Brunswick, GA
Boat: Bayfield 40
Posts: 169
btrayor's info above is righton! I completed the online application for a ship radio licence at the FCC website one day, it was accepted the next, and the license arrived in the mail a week later. Plus, the people we talked to by phone were very helpful and nice. A 10-yr license covers all our wireless communications for 10 years.
nknowland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-02-2013, 10:18   #20
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Ithaca, NY
Boat: Leopard 38 Cat "Alesto 2"
Posts: 28
Re: Is FCC Registration Required in Bahamas for VHF Radio ?

What is correct channel setting, USA or International, for Bahamas and Caribbean areas? Boaters have some one way and some the other. This results in channels with an A in the number not working. I was thinking in areas anywhere near USA (Bahamas) or Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands that USA was correct as it would be needed to converse with USCG, but that is just a guess.
leehaefele is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-02-2013, 10:44   #21
Eternal Member

Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,046
Images: 4
Re: Is FCC Registration Required in Bahamas for VHF Radio ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by leehaefele View Post
What is correct channel setting, USA or International, for Bahamas and Caribbean areas? Boaters have some one way and some the other. This results in channels with an A in the number not working. I was thinking in areas anywhere near USA (Bahamas) or Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands that USA was correct as it would be needed to converse with USCG, but that is just a guess.
Yes, you're correct. USA setting.

Bill
btrayfors is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-02-2013, 12:04   #22
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Ithaca, NY
Boat: Leopard 38 Cat "Alesto 2"
Posts: 28
Re: Is FCC Registration Required in Bahamas for VHF Radio ?

Re, use of VHF USA setting in Bahamas.
Do you have any written regs to refer to? Other boats will have their own ideas.
leehaefele is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-02-2013, 12:58   #23
Registered User
 
jeremiason's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Punta Gorda, Florida
Boat: Cruisers Yachts 420 Express
Posts: 1,429
Images: 2
Send a message via ICQ to jeremiason Send a message via Yahoo to jeremiason Send a message via Skype™ to jeremiason
Re: Is FCC Registration Required in Bahamas for VHF Radio ?

Tile 47 Code of Federal Regulations Part 80 (47 CFR 80) govern Marine VHF use in the US.

These rules are based on the International Telecommunications Union (ITU) rules, which govern VHF used outisde the US. These rules are signed by just about every nation in the world.

Something else many people don't know is, by law, if you have a Marine VHF radio installed on your recreational boat, you are REQUIRED to monitor Channel 16 while underway.

Another assumption by some recreational sailors is that commercial vessels and cruise ships monitor Channel 16. It is NOT required by international law since Digital Selective Calling became mandatory for them.

If you have an AIS receiver you will have the MMSI number for the vessel and be able to communicate wth them.
__________________
Tom Jeremiason
Punta Gorda, Florida

jeremiason is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-02-2013, 16:20   #24
Eternal Member

Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,046
Images: 4
Re: Is FCC Registration Required in Bahamas for VHF Radio ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by leehaefele View Post
Re, use of VHF USA setting in Bahamas.
Do you have any written regs to refer to? Other boats will have their own ideas.
Abaco Bahamas Cruising Information

Bill
btrayfors is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-02-2013, 17:49   #25
֍֎֍֎֍֎֍֎֍֎

Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 15,136
Re: Is FCC Registration Required in Bahamas for VHF Radio ?

"Something else many people don't know is, by law, if you have a Marine VHF radio installed on your recreational boat, you are REQUIRED to monitor Channel 16 while underway."

Heard that one before. Here or on another forum, probably a year ago. Researched it and it is a fairy tale for recreational vessels that are not required to carry radios, regardless of whether they have it installed.

As I recall the statute actually requires it for vessels "in compulsory service" or some such similar term. If you are required to have the radio, you are required to keep watch. If having the radfio is optional, you are most definitely not required to listen to it.

If you can cite something specific otherwise, please do. As it applies to recreational vessels which are not required to carry the VHF in the first place.
hellosailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-02-2013, 19:05   #26
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Seattle
Boat: Cal 40 (sold). Still have a Hobie 20
Posts: 2,945
Images: 7
Re: Is FCC Registration Required in Bahamas for VHF Radio ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post
"Something else many people don't know is, by law, if you have a Marine VHF radio installed on your recreational boat, you are REQUIRED to monitor Channel 16 while underway."

Heard that one before. Here or on another forum, probably a year ago. Researched it and it is a fairy tale for recreational vessels that are not required to carry radios, regardless of whether they have it installed.

As I recall the statute actually requires it for vessels "in compulsory service" or some such similar term. If you are required to have the radio, you are required to keep watch. If having the radfio is optional, you are most definitely not required to listen to it.

If you can cite something specific otherwise, please do. As it applies to recreational vessels which are not required to carry the VHF in the first place.
This says you have to have either 16 or 9 on watch if no DSC.

47 CFR 80.310 - Watch required by voluntary vessels. - Code of Federal Regulations - Title 47: Telecommunication - Subpart G: Safety Watch Requirements and Procedures - Id 19855789 - vLex
cal40john is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-02-2013, 04:12   #27
Registered User
 
jeremiason's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Punta Gorda, Florida
Boat: Cruisers Yachts 420 Express
Posts: 1,429
Images: 2
Send a message via ICQ to jeremiason Send a message via Yahoo to jeremiason Send a message via Skype™ to jeremiason
Re: Is FCC Registration Required in Bahamas for VHF Radio ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post
"Something else many people don't know is, by law, if you have a Marine VHF radio installed on your recreational boat, you are REQUIRED to monitor Channel 16 while underway."

Heard that one before. Here or on another forum, probably a year ago. Researched it and it is a fairy tale for recreational vessels that are not required to carry radios, regardless of whether they have it installed.
You should check the regulations again, it not a "Fairy tale... If a recreational vesel has a Marine VHF Installed you are required to keep a watch on Channel 16


If you don't believe me or the Code of Federal Regulations, here is another link to the USCG with the information on Radio Watch Keeping and here is a quote from that page:


In general, any vessel equipped with a VHF marine radiotelephone (whether voluntarily or required to) must maintain a watch on channel 16 (156.800 MHz) whenever the radiotelephone is not being used to communicate.
__________________
Tom Jeremiason
Punta Gorda, Florida

jeremiason is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-02-2013, 04:24   #28
always in motion is the future
 
s/v Jedi's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: in paradise
Boat: Sundeer 64
Posts: 19,003
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremiason View Post

You should check the regulations again, it not a "Fairy tale... If a recreational vesel has a Marine VHF Installed you are required to keep a watch on Channel 16

If you don't believe me or the Code of Federal Regulations, here is another link to the USCG with the information on Radio Watch Keeping and here is a quote from that page:

In general, any vessel equipped with a VHF marine radiotelephone (whether voluntarily or required to) must maintain a watch on channel 16 (156.800 MHz) whenever the radiotelephone is not being used to communicate.
Exactly. And knowledge of these regulations is why many countries require passing exams for operator certificates.
__________________
“It’s a trap!” - Admiral Ackbar.

s/v Jedi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-02-2013, 06:52   #29
Nearly an old salt
 
goboatingnow's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Lefkas Marina ,Greece
Boat: Bavaria 36
Posts: 22,801
Images: 3
Re: Is FCC Registration Required in Bahamas for VHF Radio ?

Quote:
In general, any vessel equipped with a VHF marine radiotelephone (whether voluntarily or required to) must maintain a watch on channel 16 (156.800 MHz) whenever the radiotelephone is not being used to communicate.
DSC equipped vessels may discontinue listening watches on CH16, but under GMDSS , they do have to monitor bridge to bridge and safety of navigation VHF channels in particular CH6,13 or 11. It may be better to try these sometime then 16 if you dont have DSC. ( what you dont have DSC!!)

for a review of gmdss GMDSS Handbook
__________________
Interested in smart boat technology, networking and all things tech
goboatingnow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-02-2013, 07:04   #30
Registered User
 
Kettlewell's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Massachusetts
Boat: Finnsailer 38
Posts: 5,319
Re: Is FCC Registration Required in Bahamas for VHF Radio ?

Quote:
DSC equipped vessels may discontinue listening watches on CH16, but under GMDSS , they do have to monitor bridge to bridge and safety of navigation VHF channels in particular CH6,13 or 11. It may be better to try these sometime then 16 if you dont have DSC. ( what you dont have DSC!!)
Here in the USA you will miss 95% of all traffic if you don't monitor Channel 16, including commercial coastwise stuff. They still do their "Securite" calls on 16, and then they usually say at the end "Monitoring channel 16 and 13."
__________________
JJKettlewell
Kettlewell is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
Bahamas, radio, registration


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
VHF Radio Use Dedzaboy Training, Licensing & Certification 96 20-06-2014 13:13
Can AIS Share VHF Antenna with Existing VHF Radio ? cool2848 Marine Electronics 18 24-04-2013 08:56
Federal Registration Required ? heraulc2 Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 15 05-01-2011 10:52
Renters Barred by FCC from Using HF Radio? N8QH Marine Electronics 14 17-11-2009 21:52
Dinghy Registration Required in the US? jdoe71 Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 7 20-07-2009 12:49

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 14:49.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.