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**boatman61** · 09-01-2014, 18:39

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Originally Posted by Celestialsailor

Most likely there is a document of some form from the USCG stating what year HIN's were started. However, there does not seem to be a whole lot of rational going on at the moment with people checking things. Let's hope for the best.
Boatie...you change avatars more often than I shower...well I guess that's not often either.

Easily bored mate... I blame the media, tv, newspapers, 30 second sound bites and paranoia...

**Coops** · 09-01-2014, 18:52

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Originally Posted by boatman61

Easily bored mate... I blame the media, tv, newspapers, 30 second sound bites and paranoia...

You sure it's not Zee's fault as well? Everything else seems to be.

Coops.

**boatman61** · 09-01-2014, 19:06

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Originally Posted by Coops

You sure it's not Zee's fault as well? Everything else seems to be.

Coops.

Damned Alzheimer's ... knew I'd forgot summat..

Celestialsailor · 09-01-2014, 19:13

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Originally Posted by Coops

You sure it's not Zee's fault as well? Everything else seems to be.

Coops.

I will not put my foot in my mouth...
I will not put my foot in my mouth...
I will not put my foot in my mouth...
I will not put my foot in .....

Blue Crab · 10-01-2014, 03:27

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Originally Posted by Celestialsailor

I will not put my foot in my mouth...
I will not put my foot in my mouth...
I will not put my foot in my mouth...
I will not put my foot in .....

( psssst .....It's not so bad if you'd shower more often.)

Celestialsailor · 10-01-2014, 05:55

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Originally Posted by Blue Crab

( psssst .....It's not so bad if you'd shower more often.)

Old sailors never die...they just smell that way.

cal40john · 10-01-2014, 06:43

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Originally Posted by boatman61

I would not recommend that at all... that would be considered forgery if.. and it likely would be.. discovered.. and a whole new mess would ensue.
What is the make/builder of your boat.. are they still going.. if they are not there used to be a registration system of boats where you were issued with an official number which was then engraved into a permanent fixture of the boat.. like the main beam in the cabin.
Official documentation of this would also be needed.. if possible..
HIN's are relatively new in the sailing world.. one of the results of mass production

My boat is old enough it doesn't have an HIN. WA state DMV assigns your boat an HIN if it didn't have one. Presumably other countries will only be interested in my Federal Documentation and will be happy with the documentation number in the hull, but the Fed Doc says no HIN, my WA state registration claims that I do have a HIN. So I legally have one. Do I scratch it into the hull? Do I register in another state before going cruising? Do I never leave the U.S. because I'm now screwe?

model 10 · 10-01-2014, 06:56

Our boat is a 1971 with no HIN on the hull but we do have such a # on our boat dock along with the boat dock #. We checked into Mexico (east coast) a few weeks ago and they wanted both numbers for their forms.

Blue Crab · 10-01-2014, 06:58

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Do I never leave the U.S. because I'm now screwed?

I know you're joking but I gather several folks are still planning on going to Mexico in the very near future. Gosh, this seems like a bad idea to me. Sometimes vacation plans just don't work out.

Hawaii's nice for folks with enough boat.

**boatman61** · 10-01-2014, 07:09

US boat builders obviously operate under different rules then.. every non/pre production boat I've owned has had its 'ships number' inscribed into a permanent fixture.. this is separate from any registration number..
This evolved into a HIN number when plastic went mass..

Lake-Effect · 10-01-2014, 07:32

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My boat is old enough it doesn't have an HIN.
Do I never leave the U.S. because I'm now screwed?

Shhh. If there ever was a sure-fire excuse to get a bigger/better boat, this is it.

You're welcome.

**Jim Cate** · 10-01-2014, 14:27

Interesting contrast:

We have been cruising in the South Pacific since 1990. We've checked into and out of a fair number of nations in that time. Not one official has ever asked for our HIN. We are state registered in Illinois, and the certificate of title and registration card are all that they have wanted to see. No one has ever looked to check the physical HIN, although we actually have one. This boat was built by a shipwright in Queensland and has no "factory" number, but does have one applied later by New South Wales when the boat was registered there by the PO.

It is a strange world we live in, and different govs have different mind sets. Tread carefully, watching for trip wires and tiger pits!

Cheers,

Jim

Celestialsailor · 10-01-2014, 14:42

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Originally Posted by Jim Cate

Interesting contrast:

We have been cruising in the South Pacific since 1990. We've checked into and out of a fair number of nations in that time. Not one official has ever asked for our HIN. We are state registered in Illinois, and the certificate of title and registration card are all that they have wanted to see. No one has ever looked to check the physical HIN, although we actually have one. This boat was built by a shipwright in Queensland and has no "factory" number, but does have one applied later by New South Wales when the boat was registered there by the PO.

It is a strange world we live in, and different govs have different mind sets. Tread carefully, watching for trip wires and tiger pits!

Cheers,

Jim

All good advice Jim and remember here especially, things change with each new regime that comes to power it seems. I thought I could not find my HIN at first, preparing for the impending visit. Then I noticed a SS plate riveted to the center line of the transom just below the toe rail.