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Old 08-01-2014, 15:11   #76
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Latitude 38 - 'Lectronic Latitude

This is the latest from Latitude 38 on the situation asking that people inor at some point planing to go to Mexico get pro-active.
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Although it was many years ago, we discovered that in Mexico, a skipper's wife could not legally move the boat if he were incapacitated unless she was listed on the rol de tripulantes as the first mate. I do not know in what role to Richard Spindler Dona Mallorca stands, but if she is not the registered skipper that might be where the problem was.
Ann, I'm pretty sure she may actually be listed as skipper, since she's brought their boat back from the Carribean via Mexico at least once.

This is also not an issue of "be nice to the bureaucracy" kinda thing, since it involves a part of their IRS who has completely screwed the pooch.

Latitude 38's report today pretty clearly describes what's been happening, while for some folks in Mexico who haven't been affected may still see it differently.
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areas south of banderas bay have not been affected by this tax action....
and i still find it most interesting that those who dealt with this immediately and in person are already able to have their boats free.
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those who dealt with this immediately and in person are already able to have their boats free.
Not the 4 people I know that were aboard, never left their boat, and had all paperwork in order. Sometimes bad **** happens even when they did all the right things, so we should try and make this sound like it was the cruisers fault, that isn't fair to the good people that are caught up in this clusterF$$#
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and i still find it most interesting that those who dealt with this immediately and in person are already able to have their boats free.[/QUOTE

Zee... If you read the latest Latitude 38 you might realize that what you say isn't necessarily so, from the article:

"... Our understanding is that the impetus for this story was the impounding of a multimillion-dollar boat in Ensenada, a boat that had gone to Ensenada for a few days for boat work, and a boat that was in full compliance with all Mexican regulations. The owner and captain were aboard when AGACE auditors came around. The auditors told them that everything was fine, but nonetheless put the boat on the impound list, later saying they didn't observe a HIN (hull identification number) on the boat. The HIN is clearly imprinted in the hull exactly where it should be. "

So they were aboard and legal and still were impounded.

I realize that it's difficult to wrap ones mind around the concept that bad things happen to good people but this seems to be the case. We all want to think if we do the right thing that we'll be okay but, especially as a retired nurse, you must see that that isn't always so.

It's very sad, and scary!
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Not the 4 people I know that were aboard, never left their boat, and had all paperwork in order. Sometimes bad **** happens even when they did all the right things, so we should try and make this sound like it was the cruisers fault, that isn't fair to the good people that are caught up in this clusterF$$#
Rich, you mean should NOT, correct? Sounds like your position on this has evolved some.

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You are right Mark...left out the word Not.

As for blue Crab....sorry, never noticed your rant but feel free to rant again if it help. My position hasn't changed at all on this entire mess. There are wild rumors with no truth to them runing around and I was stressing to not start the rumor mill.

You want a great exmaple of the run-away rumor mill...read this Cruiser's Blog
A surprise visit | Longhaul trihull

As for spelling nit piccking...heck I leaeve that fro the chatt rom nitpickers, besides it gives peopel somethinh to rant about.
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Wow the Longhaul is nuts. Wonder where they get their facts. Fox News maybe ?
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Wow the Longhaul is nuts. Wonder where they get their facts. Fox News maybe ?
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Not even FOX, MSNBC, or MSLSD is that crazy...this is Alex Jones Tin-foil hat kinda stuff!
But that's the problem. People who haven't been to Mexico themselves or know dozzens of Cruisers in Mexico will read Longhaul's post and actually believe it!
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... As for blue Crab....sorry, never noticed your rant but feel free to rant again if it help. My position hasn't changed at all on this entire mess. There are wild rumors with no truth to them runing around and I was stressing to not start the rumor mill.

You want a great exmaple of the run-away rumor mill...read this Cruiser's Blog
A surprise visit | Longhaul trihull

As for spelling nit piccking...heck I leaeve that fro the chatt rom nitpickers, besides it gives peopel somethinh to rant about.
That's funny ... no ... wait ...
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That's funny ... no ... wait ...
Some days I would give my left nut for a spell check program on CF.
On the other days someone kicks me in it.
Someone has to keep a Cruising Bozo like me honest!

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A surprise visit | Longhaul trihull

Not even FOX, MSNBC, or MSLSD is that crazy...this is Alex Jones Tin-foil hat kinda stuff!
But that's the problem. People who haven't been to Mexico themselves or know dozzens of Cruisers in Mexico will read Longhaul's post and actually believe it!
I do believe the boys from Longhaul have already been to Mexico and have been sampling too much of the local produce. You know the kind that the don't allow you to bring back to the states.
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You know the kind that the don't allow you to bring back to the states.
Except in Colorado......not that I know.....
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Except in Colorado......not that I know.....
Or in California if you have a note from some guy in a back office prescription from a doctor.

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