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Old 18-03-2016, 14:23   #106
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Re: AIS now compulsory for foreign yachts in Thailand

You could guarantee that once the technology became available the control freak bureaucrats would start working on the legislators to make it compulsory on all vessels. Start raising hell with your local member, senator etc right now, it's coming to get you sooner or later.
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Old 18-03-2016, 14:39   #107
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Boy, the Generalissimo is really getting his hands into everything.
The "Generalismo" as you so nicely put it has recently been transferred to a less prestigious/landlocked Provence where I am sure his maritime expertise will be put to good use.

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Old 18-03-2016, 16:12   #108
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Was funny how this guy got a promotion then then got moved to an inactive post after they siezed all those jet ski operators !!! I wouldn't worry to much about the AIS thing anymore OR check in in Satun or Krabi
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Old 18-03-2016, 16:43   #109
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Indonesia now have initiated the same rule as Thailand however the customs staff don't even know what AIS looks like , so far I have been asked on 5 occasions to show my MMSI "certificate" when clearing into Indonesia, what a joke

On a separate point , I have seen local Singapore/Batam Ferrys operating with their AIS turned off and large container ships stationary transferring at night with AIS reading false data.

The whole AIS system is a joke.
Only thing to trust is your own radar , and a good visual lookout,

I also have concern in regards to safety as your vessel is now an easy target for piracy when in Philippine or Indonesian waters
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Old 18-03-2016, 20:16   #110
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I am in Langkawi Malaysia at the moment, about to do a delivery back to Australia, and yes AIS transmitter is compulsory for Indonesia. we are going through the hassle of installing a stand alone unit.
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The "Generalismo" as you so nicely put it has recently been transferred to a less prestigious/landlocked Provence where I am sure his maritime expertise will be put to good use.

I always considered him a less pleasant Sgt Schulz.
Nah, wrong guy. I'm talking about the big kahuna himself. You know the guy who led the "coup battalion" until a few years ago. Wink.
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Old 20-03-2016, 16:35   #112
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I'm in Indonesia , yes I've been told you must have one (which I do) but as of now no one has checked or asked.

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I'm in Indonesia , yes I've been told you must have one (which I do) but as of now no one has checked or asked.

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When you go to the Port captains office they ask for your MMSI Number, you must appear on their screen. No more CAIT. I met some Germans that just got here, told us he was kept in port until he had the AIS fitted, and he was CHECKING OUT. when he went in a couple of days later to get his clearance the girles did not even have the computer turned on, checked his Receipt for the new AIS and gave him his papers.
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And telling the world you are breaking the law in Thailand! This forum has had frequent information advising of the new requirements. You don't seriously think they will not not see you don't have a transponder?


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Old 20-03-2016, 19:21   #115
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[QUOTE=SimonV;2077395]When you go to the Port captains office they ask for your MMSI Number, you must appear on their screen. No more CAIT. I met some Germans that just got here, told us he was kept in port until he had the AIS fitted, and he was CHECKING OUT. when he went in a couple of days later to get his clearance the girles did not even have the computer turned on, checked his Receipt for the new AIS and gave him

They haven't done this at Benoa ( well to me anyway), and don't even start me on the Cait , it seems to be changing week to week. Just ask part of the adventure .

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Damn great news! AIS is a very valuable bit of kit.
It should be compulsory in every country!

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Damn great news! AIS is a very valuable bit of kit.
It should be compulsory in every country!

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What? The USCG in San Francisco Bay (located on Yerba Buena Island) hardly ever monitors "B" grade AIS. They watch over the "big stuff" rather than recreational boats. Monitoring VHF channel 14 here provides plenty of clues of large-ship movements because of required checkpoints.

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Damn great news! AIS is a very valuable bit of kit.
It should be compulsory in every country!

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I'm with you Mark, I fully do not understand why people struggle with the AIS thing.

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What? The USCG in San Francisco Bay (located on Yerba Buena Island) hardly ever monitors "B" grade AIS. They watch over the "big stuff" rather than recreational boats. Monitoring VHF channel 14 here provides plenty of clues of large-ship movements because of required checkpoints.

The USCG monitoring them is not whats beneficial. I dont care what they monitor. The big benefit with AIS is that we, recreational boats can see everyone else and they us, who has it. That's where the real benefit of having AIS is.
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Re: AIS now compulsory for foreign yachts in Thailand

[QUOTE]The USCG monitoring them is not whats beneficial. I dont care what they monitor. The big benefit with AIS is that we, recreational boats can see everyone else and they us, who has it. That's where the real benefit of having AIS is./QUOTE]

In SF Bay, and other crowded areas where yachts and shipping must co-exist, AIS is of limited value much of the time. But, in such areas a careful visual watch is of great value.

Once out the Gate and at sea, the value increases, and when everyone has it, th value is huge. I'm with MarkJ on this o ne.

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