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Old 13-04-2013, 07:18   #16
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Re: Saltwater Wood Glue

My concern is for yours and others safety. Seriously, don't do it. The chances of flipping the boat are very high which could end up injuring or killing you and others.

Besides, what you are considering is illegal given the horsepower exceeds the boats capacity plate.

A 200 horsepower outboard is going to weigh 475 to 600 pounds and you want to put this on the transom of a 10 foot dinghy? Even small racing hydros with a very high power to weight ratios are safer than this from a design, safety and stability standpoint. Please think about what you are considering.

Either that or accept an early nomination for a Darwin award because you might just win the award if you should go ahead with this. I'm sorry if you are offended by that statement, but I think you need to know the truth. And for god sakes, don't take any potential victims out with you on this boat.
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Old 13-04-2013, 07:31   #17
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Re: Saltwater Wood Glue

He was joking or being sarcastic. The real world must be stressing him out, he is due back to his boat here in key west in a couple days.
He has a 4.5 hp 20" shaft that he just bought in his hometown that will provide as a dual purpose as a backup on the mothership as there is already an outboard bracket installed on the transom.

He needs to raise his plywood transom on his inflatable.
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Old 13-04-2013, 07:45   #18
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He was joking or being sarcastic. The real world must be stressing him out, he is due back to his boat here in key west in a couple days.
He has a 4.5 hp 20" shaft that he just bought in his hometown that will provide as a dual purpose as a backup on the mothership as there is already an outboard bracket installed on the transom.

He needs to raise his plywood transom on his inflatable.


Scarf it. 10/1 oughta be good for an outboard that small. Hard to scarf on an inflatable transom unless you remove the sponsons. I'd use a Scarffer attachment on a circ saw and finish the edges by hand.
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Old 13-04-2013, 07:51   #19
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Funny thing about Boaties....I asked what kind of glue should I use, and I get epoxy, Resorcinol, and polyurethane. I am to assume, that any epoxy, resorcinol, and polyurethane, can be used no matter what brand name they carry? ----
Yep. Just a matter of personal preference. For a dinghy transom I would use WEST epoxy 'cause that's what I'm used to.
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The inflatable is more like 8.5 to 9 feet (plywood floor, inflatable keel), I can't see it being 10 feet.
The 4.5 should plane it in calm water but it's not likely to get the job done with the 20" shaft. It'd be a good putter, if there's any chance of planing with that size motor he needs to raise the transom.

This would have been my choice assuming its a short shaft.
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Its here in the keys for sale, he is home, I have no wheels to pick it up either.
Ahhhhh, the sailors blues.
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Old 13-04-2013, 08:06   #22
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i wanna ride along dude
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Old 13-04-2013, 08:46   #23
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He had to be joking. Gotta be smarter than he looks.
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Old 13-04-2013, 09:20   #24
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Re: Saltwater Wood Glue

200hp too much power for a 10' dinghy? tsk.. we put 2 jet engines on a 10' dinghy
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west epoxy,good for wood and stainless.Clean stainless first.
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Sorry Blackoak

200hp is 150kg on a transom designed order of magnitude less thrust you are going to need divine intervention, not glue.

Epoxy would be my choice, but I would suggest you use it to build a bigger tender.

Make sure you have a PFD and a kill cord for the sea trial.
I dont think it'll float for long. If you have to do it, you need to build a whole transom, I would likely use Aluminum to sandwich in the old transom. This is a joke right? What does that engine weigh? 600 lbs? I imagine it will fill the dink with water as soon as you put it on the transom.
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I dont think it'll float for long. If you have to do it, you need to build a whole transom, I would likely use Aluminum to sandwich in the old transom. This is a joke right? What does that engine weigh? 600 lbs? I imagine it will fill the dink with water as soon as you put it on the transom.

Haha....read post #17.
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I measured this for BlackOak, he is still home, his transom needs to be raised 5" to accomodate his 20" shaft motor.
He may have this pre-built at home.
Guess he is bored.
The transom is plywood.
Any suggestions?

The dinghy is hanging on his davits near my boat here in Key West.
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Re: Saltwater Wood Glue

You don't need glue dood, you need kryptonite.
Please Please Please Please get a GoPro camera, I wanna see this on yootoob!
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Need some advice here. I need to do some modifications on the transom of my 1990 achilles dink, which will involve glue and bolts. Yeah, I am going to raise the transom 5 inches to accommodate a 20" shaft outboard. Yeah, yeah, I know all about the issues of doing this, so please save your fingers telling me why i shouldnt do such a thing..okay? Thanks!

Now, I plan to use bolts and glue. The bolts I got covered, its the glue that I am concerned with, and would like to hear some recommendations as to the best glue for this particular application. Regardless of needing to glue or not, Imma gonna glue anyway.

I have searched the www and read about all the different types of glue, but would prefer to hear it from my cruisers forum family, as I value, and appreciate the vast knowledge and experience that is found here.

I have a 200hp (two hundred hp) black max, that I plan to put on my 10' Achilles inflatable, so i will need to make sure the transom is reinforced adequately. Yes I know this is a bit over the top, and shouldnt be attempted, but thats what they said about going to the moon. So forgo the whys, this is crazy, retarded, wont work, etc..comments, and tell be what is the best glue for the bucks. Again Thanks!

ps. just focus on the glue

Youre worried about the Glue. LOL , youre kidding us right,

why bother about the glue, Id be buying SCUBA gear.

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