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Old 21-09-2015, 06:02   #1126
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Re: And So it Begins . . . Knottybuoyz' New Project

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.....Always a blast to check in... Finishing layer's a beeotch sometimes ain't it? Damn flimsy stuff...

As you said tho... you can hide anything....

Except long term affairs...

Keep truckin' Rick!
Thanks Happy!

No long term affairs here. Wife told me she'd cut my happy parts off in my sleep if she ever found out. I like my happy parts where they are thank you very much!

I had some stuff for the outside that was a 'satin finish' fabric. It was very very nice to work with. Stupid me didn't buy more.
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Old 21-09-2015, 10:24   #1127
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Re: And So it Begins . . . Knottybuoyz' New Project

I reluctantly hauled my butt into the boat to see the results of yesterday's glass session. Yanked off the peel ply and......



Not too bad. A few small bubbles. In places it looks dry but when you get closer it really isn't. I'm wondering if there was some treatment or sizing on the cloth that turned white when the epoxy hit it. A contaminant maybe.



Spent the rest of the morning splicing the starboard aft sections of stringers together.



Will load these up in the boat tomorrow. They're heavy!

Few more pics & nonsense on the blog update today. http://she-kon.blogspot.ca/2015/09/tran ... ngers.html

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Old 21-09-2015, 10:32   #1128
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Re: And So it Begins . . . Knottybuoyz' New Project

It does look like a lot of trapped air. To be certain, you might cutout a small spot that can be easily repaired. Otherwise laying up a small, separate batch, for testing, wouldn't be much more work each time you layup another large area.

Is it possible the peel ply is creating this issue?
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Old 21-09-2015, 12:21   #1129
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It does look like a lot of trapped air. To be certain, you might cutout a small spot that can be easily repaired. Otherwise laying up a small, separate batch, for testing, wouldn't be much more work each time you layup another large area.

Is it possible the peel ply is creating this issue?
I don't think it's the peel ply TN. I rolled the crap out of the plain weave before and it sort of looked like it was dry in spots. I rolled on more after the peel ply went on so that it wasn't sucking up epoxy from the underlying fiberglass.

Really don't think it's going to be much of an issue. I'm not going to use that stuff anywhere else on the boat. I'll likely put an extra layer of 1208 between the frames once they're in the boat in lieu of the finishing plain weave glass. A bit more epoxy is all it'll cost.

My goal is to get the stringers in place this season. The first two sections will go in tomorrow!
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Old 21-09-2015, 16:45   #1130
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I reluctantly hauled my butt into the boat to see the results of yesterday's glass session. Yanked off the peel ply and......



Not too bad. A few small bubbles. In places it looks dry but when you get closer it really isn't. I'm wondering if there was some treatment or sizing on the cloth that turned white when the epoxy hit it. A contaminant maybe.



Spent the rest of the morning splicing the starboard aft sections of stringers together.



Will load these up in the boat tomorrow. They're heavy!

Few more pics & nonsense on the blog update today. http://she-kon.blogspot.ca/2015/09/tran ... ngers.html

Thanks for lookin' in!

Cheers!
Most likely contaminant is water. Most resins turn milky white when exposed to moisture before full cure.
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Old 21-09-2015, 17:13   #1131
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Looks like air sort of, but really can only be 3 things:

1) air
2) epoxy filled bubbles
3) fiberglass that previously had epoxy spilled on it which hardened before this lam job

In all but #2, you should grind/patch for peace of mind
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Old 21-09-2015, 17:37   #1132
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Keep up w/ your good work! :-)
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Old 21-09-2015, 17:45   #1133
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Most likely contaminant is water. Most resins turn milky white when exposed to moisture before full cure.
That particular piece of fabric was stored in my garden shed for two years. In a plastic bag sealed and in a box. Could it have sucked up enough humidity to do that do you think minaret?
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Old 22-09-2015, 07:48   #1134
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Re: And So it Begins . . . Knottybuoyz' New Project

So I'm cleaning up the stringers getting them ready to go in the boat. Spliced together and radius'd the top edge with router. Sanded etc.



I'm thinking to myself. That's always scary! I wonder if I could glass them before I put them in the boat? I've got a ton of that 33 oz triax left to use up. This might be a good opportunity to do just that. One layer and done! I'd peel ply them as well so no sanding later.



Pro's: I can work standing up, One less thing to do on my hands & knees in the boat

Con's: They'll be heavier to move, working outside is iffy if weather comes in

Thoughts? Ideas? Suggestions?
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Go for it.
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What's a few more pounds?


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Old 22-09-2015, 13:14   #1137
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Probably the silliest thing you'll see on the ole' Interwebs today.



Some of you may have already seen this on Facebook this morning. I hit an area with the router where I spliced the two sections of stringer together and there was a lot of epoxy glue that oozed out. I got showered in schmutz!

Go ahead let me have it! I can take all your jokes!
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Re: And So it Begins . . . Knottybuoyz' New Project

Got my head back in the bilge again. Today's chore was to put an extra layer of tape along the bottom/keel join.



Nothing spectacular but a few more pics on the blog update today: http://she-kon.blogspot.ca/2015/09/play ... ch-up.html
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Quick update.

The Stringers are technically 'in the boat'. Not installed but definitely 'in the boat'! Yesterday was a repeat of the day before. I taped the bottom/keel join & the very back end of the box keel. Ended up with a big bubble in the most inaccessible place possible. Right at the bottom at the very back of the keel.



I used the electric hoist to lift them in. They're about 80 lbs each. I could have humped them up the ladder but why bother when you have the equipment to do it for you!



Grinder Time!

Standby.....
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Rick,
Smart man using the hoist, would have sucked if you injured yourself humping those up the side. Keep at it bud! Winter and hot toddies will be here soon enuff!
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