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Old 17-06-2018, 08:09   #1
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Thoughts on this Cat

Hi all

Live in Tasmania and currently sail a 28 foot Mono and recently started looking at Multi's

Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this design for sheltered and coastal cruising

https://www.boatsalestas.com.au/sail...amaran/141795/

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Old 17-06-2018, 15:44   #2
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Easys are a well known and popular home built boat. There are lots of them cruising the Australian coast, with some having done offshore passages.

I haven't sailed on one, but have sailed with a couple at times.

They're quite roomy and comfortable, and sail pretty well.

These are plywood boats, so it's very important that all deck fittings and hull penetrations are done right. If you're buying from the original owner/builder, there's every chance they will be. It's usually second, third etc owners who run around drilling holes all over the place without properly sealing them.

Spend some time tapping the decks around fittings looking for soft spots. Obviously get a survey, but still have a good look yourself. Surveyors have limited time and can miss stuff.

Even if some water has penetrated the plywood, it's often easy to fix, structurally. Cosmetically it can be harder.

Good luck!
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Hi all

Live in Tasmania and currently sail a 28 foot Mono and recently started looking at Multi's

Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this design for sheltered and coastal cruising

https://www.boatsalestas.com.au/sail...amaran/141795/

Regards Don
Hi Don,

If the rig is structurally well supported, I don't see any reason to conceptually consign this design to coastal cruising only.
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If you are considering any Easy, call Peter Snell and discuss with him first. Well worth the price of the phone call, he is a very approachable chap
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And ask Peter if he knows the builder, or saw any of the work while underway.

From the photos, it "appears" that great care was taken during the build!

Good luck!
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Wheel steering and a Raymarine ST2000 tiller pilot ?
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These guys love their Easy - sistership to the one you are considering. They do trips to Tassie often and have crossed Bass Strait multiple times. Nice people who were keen to talk to us about cruising Tassie in a cat. Maybe email them with some of your questions.

https://sv-takeiteasy.com/
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Looks like a fine boat to me, well built. The great detailing tells a lot. I see so many adds for boats that look like the owners had a drunken bash just before the photographs were taken. Stuff thrown all over the place, tools on the table. Unbelievable. This boat is clean, clean, clean.
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Just spend a sufficient amount of time checking the structural integrity of every portion of the boat. Plywood just loves water if there is even the smallest of voids anywhere on the boat.
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Wheel steering and a Raymarine ST2000 tiller pilot ?
Odd as this sounds if the rudder with the extra drag from the wheel steering components is acceptable, it works. We sailed for 10 years using a ST2000 on a cut down tiller so that it didn't foul the wheel.
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However, if a mono goes over, it rights itself ( If it's properly made).
Don, it looks as though you are seriously considering a cat. Good on you. If you do get one, you will find that unhelpful comments such as these are really rare nowadays. When you share we share an anchorage with mono sailors there is no patronizing or sly digs in the ribs - just open recognition of a different, but not better choice.

It makes a refreshing change from the early 80s when I first got a multi in Sydney - some of my friends were aghast at my slide to the dark side. Now they just come over in their dinghies, because a cat has the biggest cockpit in the anchorage and you can put 5 dinghies off the back no worries. So you may get trolled on the web, very rarely thankfully, but it doesn't happen out there cruising.
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Don, it looks as though you are seriously considering a cat. Good on you. If you do get one, you will find that unhelpful comments such as these are really rare nowadays. When you share we share an anchorage with mono sailors there is no patronizing or sly digs in the ribs - just open recognition of a different, but not better choice.

It makes a refreshing change from the early 80s when I first got a multi in Sydney - some of my friends were aghast at my slide to the dark side. Now they just come over in their dinghies, because a cat has the biggest cockpit in the anchorage and you can put 5 dinghies off the back no worries. So you may get trolled on the web, very rarely thankfully, but it doesn't happen out there cruising.
It would be nice if that were true but it's not.

Even in Lake Macquarie, on a public dock we had some cretin walk up to tell us our boat wasn't seaworthy and wouldn't fit through the Swansea bridge anyway.
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It would be nice if that were true but it's not.

Even in Lake Macquarie, on a public dock we had some cretin walk up to tell us our boat wasn't seaworthy and wouldn't fit through the Swansea bridge anyway.
Ouch - and in my home waters too. I did once call starboard on a beer can race boat once and they were less than respectful. In the 80s I almost chased down a guy who said to his wife that my tri would fall apart in any ocean and ask him how I could have gotten the 30ft wide boat up from its home port 1000 miles away.

But once we were away from the wannabes and out cruising the boats speak for themselves. Cats are where people often congregate and when we say we like certain anchorages or plan to do say an 85-100 mile trip in a day we often get the comment "Oh but you guys are on a cat".
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Re: Thoughts on this Cat

People.

Let us not make this a Cat vs Mono thread. We have removed a lot of posts.

This is Cruisers Forum, NOT Monos only Forum.

Be respectful and nice or be gone.
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Pics look nice. You've gotten good advice on plywood, rot etc..

The boat is light for it's size IMHO. For that reason I'd be reluctant to go offshore/blue water with it but coastal trips should be fun and you can choose your weather windows reliably and easily for safety.
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